Quote from: RealBitcoin on March 05, 2016, 06:07:00 AM

Quote from: jaysabi on March 05, 2016, 03:50:27 AM

I'm with you up to the democracy part, because I don't think freedom is best achieved in a democracy if your version of democracy is that popular ideas are deemed moral because they're the most popular. That doesn't follow logically. If there are no absolute freedoms, democracy is rather worthless in my opinion. So it has to be a democracy that doesn't have the power to infringe on the freedom of the individual, and now we're back to a moral government.

Free shit folks:

Free money, free food, free education ,free sex, free immortality, etc...

How do you achieve that?

Free money: Steal from productive people and give it to unproductive people

Free food: Steal from farmers and give it to lazy people who dont grow their crops

Free education: Steal from educated parents and give it to uneducated ones who did poor choices in their lives because they are dumb

Free sex: Legalize rape and lets see how well it turns out.

Free immmortality: No idea, but socialist can fantasize about this too.

etc... you get the idea

Socialism and communism seem good on paper, but in reality there are many problems associated with it. You HAVE to take from some source, and it just feels like you're incentivizing people to work less. The rich can get taxed, sure, but everybody wants to be rich, right? Greed will reign supreme in all cases, and for those who actually achieve that upper-class level, they'll be PUNISHED for the hard work.