Ralobot.com

Quote from: Ralobot.com on March 05, 2016, 04:20:21 PM

Seb i said i dont give a fuck witch means i dont wanna waste my time on something stupid like a screanshout or a random pm transaction that can easly be faked if im a scammer.

anyways already told you my inbox was cleared for empty space .

So Seb how will u do escrow next time any new rules ?

You say that you don't have the time to take a simple screenshot and post it. That is the work of maximum 2 minutes. Though in turn you post around, stories about you being the hacker, trying to get something for revealing the trick then suddenly change your story back because you don't receive the money.

You waisted hours posting and reading this and you still try to convince us that you don't have time to post a screenshot? Seriously... would you believe yourself? Roll Eyes

Regarding new rules... well, it sounds hard to find a rule. I think maybe a warning to check the trading partners trust first and only proceed then. And an offer to the seller and buyer to give me an address of theirs before the trade and ask me to release the bitcoins only to an address that is in a message signed with the address of the seller and only release the bitcoins when it is in a message signed with the address of the buyer.

Together with a link to shorena's thread.

But seriously. I already know this will become a big mess. I already see the huge amount of questions I will receive then.

Well done sir... Roll Eyes

Quote from: Ralobot.com on March 05, 2016, 04:47:57 PM

sign a message can be bypassed easly ....

How would you bypass it? I only imagine faking it though of course a message makes only sense when checked.

Indianacoin

Quote from: Indianacoin on March 05, 2016, 04:39:45 PM

But you must keep Shorena's how to sign a message thread^[1] handy from next time onwards just in case someone does not know about it.

Yeah I know escrows are a waste of time if there is no reward for it.
It would be better if you start escrowing with a minimum fee of 0.01 BTC just as OGNasty started doing it already.
Heck I welcome every escrow providers to start at a base fee. This will be productive overall

[1] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=990345.0

Yes I know this thread and it is quite usefull though I can ensure you if you try to explain it with a link to a newbie... that is not all. It will be a big mess.

A base fee is fine and all but what should I do with 0.01 Bitcoin? That's $4 for the whole deal and believe me deals take alot of time often enough. With problems it will be many hours, and so on. Though ok, I have many deals where I don't receive anything. Maybe I really should value my time more and think about that.

I will see how I can deal with that. First I will ask other escrows what they think.

amartin99

If you would come over a phising website then your browser password would not show up. As well when you use a password database with browser extension. Such things can help preventing to go to phishing sites. As long as you don't put in the password per hand.

Did you do somewhere?

If a hacker gets a number of passwords then he really might be hacking bitcoinrelated. Maybe searching for wallets on VPS or something. Passwords he would most probably put in his password database though the forum has a 5 minute ban for logins into the same account. He could try it out on bitcointalk though he would have to know your username. Did you somewhere use the same username so that he could have checked if such a user exists on BCT?

It would have taken a bit but he would have been able to login.

Exactly... why telling me to send the coins to the address ralobot sent me? I mean ralobot wrote that he received his coins. That would mean the hacker would only have been interested in the PM. Then his scam was over after he received it. Sending this pm would only stir shit, like it happened when you got involved.

So seriously, this makes only sense when ralobot would be the hacker since he would then have both. His pm and his coins. And surely he never sent pm which is why he can't give a screenshot.

I don't know about the github script. Surely they will host all kind of code stuff and not controlling it.

You mentioned somewhere that you had to relogin into BCT every time visiting a link. Did you login manually or autofill? It might have been a phising link. Surely the hacker would have changed the link by now or deleted the pm.

If you changed the pass afterwards then I wonder how he should be notified. No email is sent out when sending pass. And when he was logged in on another pc at that time then he would be logged out after the change.

Otherwise, I'm not sure, it might be that the session of bitcointalk failed when the hacker logged in. He did not set to stay logged in and so your account was logged out after some time. Then you would have to relogin even though you do it with staying logged in enabled.

I don't know about skype but I think I heard about risks of skype besides privacy issues.

You should stop blaming the forum because it makes no sense that it is the forums fault. You are a small new user. Don't you think a hacker would hack another account on here then? There are users with huge piles of cash, unfortunately Iam not one of them even as escrow Cheesy

, and you surely would not have been the target.

Did you have set up recover account by hidden question?

Quickseller

Thanks for your opinion!

Yes, I think it is unlikely that he can't even spend the 2 minutes to make a screenshot and post it but instead posting on here for hours, telling stories of he being the hacker, trying to get money for the trick and then back out as being not the hacker anymore. Makes no sense.

It makes even less sense that, when the hacker received his PM, he would send a pm to me so that I pay ralobot. I mean it would be useless for the hacker. In fact dangerous. Drawing attention on the case.

The hacker would only do this when he would gain something from it.

In my opinion that shows pretty well that ralobot was the scammer. He has coins and pm now and he surely didn't bother sending the PM fiat out. That's the only reason he can't provide the screenshot.