Quote from: anon_giraffe on March 06, 2016, 03:55:49 AM

Quote from: Spendulus on March 05, 2016, 01:53:48 PM

When even mainstream scientists discuss "the pause," "the hiatus," the fact that there has been no warming in 19 years, and posters to this forum deny that very fact, and refuse to look at the raw satellite data behind it, whatever you want to call it, it's a problem.

If it's a strong opinion, it's such by denying the facts.

Hence, I cannot do other than to conclude Warmers are Deniers.

This does not seem congruent with the observed facts. This of course suggests that reliance on one set of data may be problematic when compared with other data that does not support it.
If satellite data and ground based data disagree, you cannot simply choose the one which supports your belief system. (see bottom link for new info regarding that particular satellite data)

Also simply looking at temperature records alone (and not considering such things as sea level/ice mass/CO2 levels) is myopic.

Any complex and large system is not going to behave in a totally predictable manner, nor constant. The mere idea of assuming that there should be a linear relationship between any two or three variables in such a system as the entire earth is absurd.

rise in sea level http://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/sea-level/
"Global sea level rose about 17 centimeters (6.7 inches) in the last century. The rate in the last decade, however, is nearly double that of the last century."

global temperature as "relative to 1951-1980 average temperatures." http://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/global-temperature/
"The 10 warmest years in the 134-year record all have occurred since 2000, with the exception of 1998. "

Revamped satellite data shows no pause in global warming.
http://phys.org/news/2016-03-revamped-satellite-global.html

"The Remote Sensing System temperature data, promoted by many who reject mainstream climate science and especially most recently by Sen. Ted Cruz, now shows a slight warming of about 0.18 degrees Fahrenheit since 1998. Ground temperature measurements, which many scientists call more accurate, all show warming in the past 18 years."

"The change resulted from an adjustment Mears made to fix a nagging discrepancy in the data from 15 satellites.
The satellites are in a polar orbit, so they are supposed to go over the same place at about the same time as they circle from north to south pole. Some of the satellites drift a bit, which changes their afternoon and evening measurements ever so slightly. Some satellites had drift that made temperatures warmer, others cooler. Three satellites had thrusters and they stayed in the proper orbit so they provided guidance for adjustments."

Unfortunately for you, the argument that was made, by me, was precisely and accurately stated as to being referential to one data set. The blind arrogance in ignoring that claim and it's statistical verification was ignored by the Warmers resident here whom then I can only call Deniers on the basis of their actions.

Frankly I don't know that 0.18F rise in 18 years rises to the point of statistical significance, but you are welcome to show that it does.

Your several other disjointed arguments thrown out are unrelated to the actual claim made.

Unless you would like to misrepresent the claim made and then proceed with a strawman argument?

lol...