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Re: Proof that God exists
by
BADecker
on 07/03/2016, 17:13:28 UTC

Not an assumption. A faith thing. ...

and the few chains that he does make are so essentially tiny compared with all the cause and effect processes that God has made in the universe...

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cause and effect might be meaningless prior to t=0.  All of the properties (laws/constants/dimensions/time) of our universe were probably undefined before t=0.
True. The universe did not exsit before time.


Maybe with big bang, space-time came to exist in our universe and it did not exist before that.  If that is true, then God could only exist when t>0 because when t <= 0, existence (of anything) was not defined/meaningless.  And we don't see any evidence of any Gods when t>0.
Why talk the if's of the big bang? Nobody has proven that it existed. And lots of people have good evidence that it did not exist. Google "electric universe" to find sites where you can see the info that collapses big bang theory.

God existed outside the universe prior to Him setting time and the universe in place. Now, He still exists outside of time and the universe, even though He has a presence inside the universe as well.

Why talk "God?" Because science has proven that God exists, even though science hasn't proven big bang exists, or even could have existed.


Humans need a cause for everything.  This need is in our nature.  It helped us survive in the past, and it advances science and technology today.

But the t <=0 conditions might not be intuitive to us because of our biology.  That is why people fill this shortcoming with God.


This is true. Even if science had not proven God to exist, the very nature of the complexity of the universe strongly suggests that He exists. People operate by what they perceive, or at least by what they think they perceive.

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