Quote from: valta4065 on March 10, 2016, 01:28:44 PM

Quote from: Daniel91 on March 09, 2016, 08:56:20 PM

Quote from: valta4065 on March 09, 2016, 11:50:57 AM

Quote from: romero121 on March 09, 2016, 10:24:23 AM

Why such bad incidents taking place for the people. They have not anything bad, they're just supporting people in their bad situation, even when no countries came forward to give support.

You reap what you sow...

We shouldn't have colonized the world, we shouldn't have used and destroyed them, we shouldn't have burnt to the ground their cultures and civilization...

Now it's too late. No peace is possible. We can either finish them or drawn.

Answer is not so simple.
We have to understand that Arabs countries was under dictatorship regimes for a very long time (Syria, Egypt, Iraq, Libya) etc.

That we willingly implemented

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When Arabs spring arrived, in most countries happened big politic change and democracy but people wasn't prepared for it.
Political instability created chaos and new conflicts.
You can't blame Western countries for it.

Of course you can. Most Maghreb countries were colonized by French and English. We stole everything, made a huge war about it (Algeria war was horrible) and finally let them alone "officially". And they hesitated a country without any working institution or economy. And you would ask for them to have a fully functioning democracy 40 years later?

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They didn't initiate this political and democratic movements but reacted in some countries, like Libya, in order to protect innocent people from brutal dictator.
Unfortunately, their actions created even more chaos and conflicts.

Same for the West. French Revolution lead to what? Terror then monarchy again.
You can't build a free democratic country on the first try.
Some could even argue it's not the end and that our Western countries will still need one or two revolution to become real democracies.

To arms, citizens,
Form your battalions,
Let's march, let's march!
Let an impure blood
Soak our fields!

This is what you get when a few decide to give others the authorization of having human's rights. They can take them away as fast at the turn of the next revolution, with fields soaked in blood. It's not as if they know any better, when you look into the european's past history of those serial sermonizers...