Quote from: Spendulus on March 11, 2016, 11:31:38 PM

Quote from: dread454 on March 11, 2016, 10:02:56 PM

Quote from: Spendulus on March 11, 2016, 08:37:11 PM

Quote from: BADecker on March 11, 2016, 07:12:22 PM

The Towers were filled with asbestos.
Burning fuel burns only at a max of 1200 degrees F.
You need special configurations to get blow-torch effects out of the burning fuel.
Tons of concrete insulation ward off heat convection.
Little heat as shown in the pictures above.

The heat was far from sufficient to take the towers down.

Cool

None of that above statements is accurate. It only shows Baddecker's ignorance. Insulation concentrates heat, rather than reducing it. Ovens and such are...insulated. Lots of wind blowing into that fire means lots of oxygen.

And we can easily calculate the joules of energy released by these planes' fuel burning, and see if it is sufficient to weaken the tower structure (Hint: I already did this in the other thread. So I can just copy and paste, duh).

Quote from: dread454 on March 11, 2016, 07:24:11 PM

Two words for you:

Controlled Demolition

All three buildings were simply "pulled" as Larry Silverstein said. It was all planned moths before the "attack" on US soil, attack by it's own government.

Buildings "pulled?" Really? Why don't you go try to pull a building? I'll loan you a rope.

Silverman explains this stupid misinterpretation of his comment, as I recall, he was talking about getting the firemen out of there. Great idea, they wouldn't be dead if he had.

Regardless, if you want to make the claim of controlled demolition, why not support it? Some actual evidence? Start with the claim that the US government was involved just for grins.

Oh man, I can't believe what I'm reading here. I don't know if you're so stupid or just too lazy to use your own brain. ....

Lol, no, we're not going for "facts and evidence" from Youtube videos.

Let's start with the problem of the steel. You think the fire from the kerosene was insufficient to weaken the steel to the point where it was very weak, right? That's what leads to the "need to talk about thermite" and in turn that leads to a "need for a conspiracy." This is a simple problem at the high school level of physics and chemistry, so tell me if I understand this objection correctly.

RE the "involvement of the US Government" I assume that if there is no need for a conspiracy theory, then the US Government were not conspirators. Take your pick, either that view or the US Government was involved in hiring/coercing "innocent Islamic Jihadists" to take lessons in flying planes and then crashing them into the towers. Either or both is fine just let us know.

Why? Don't you think Youtube videos hold more than enough evidence for people to realize what really went down that day? or would you say youtube videos are a hoax, that we shouldn't ask questions but instead believe what US government and media is telling us?
The truth is right out there for anyone wiling to search for it. I did my research extensively and I can tell you the US government and media lied to us. Many people died that day, it's unforgivable.

Even if the steel was weakened by the jet fuel this would not have dropped the entire building! Sky scrapers don't just get thrown together and collapse in free fall, they have a very strict building code. One of which relies on the build being able to take impacts from flying objects. When the steel at the point of impact was heated (btw jet fuel burns at 980C in a controlled environment) it may have been heated enough for enough amount of time to change it's crystal structure but that would not have weaken the massive steel pillars below or above it. Also, to mention the pools of melted metal, STILL glowing red hot weeks after the initial collapse. Are you trying to say that jet fuel burns hot enough and long enough to melt enough metal to create pools of lava like liquids to last at least a week? These were found by fire fighters when they were removing ruble searching for bodies.

This is not a conspiracy theory, it's god damn fact laying on the floor in front of you. The only conspiracy theory is that bullshit the government fed us so we would want to go invade the middle east and implant our own seeds of governmental dominance so we can have a foothold on that economy as well.