Quote from: Jmild1 on March 25, 2016, 07:41:35 AM

Quote from: BADecker on March 25, 2016, 07:25:28 AM

Quote from: Jmild1 on March 24, 2016, 11:37:35 PM

Keep on quoting "Science prove god" where?
Or is it more likely, theist adapt the credit to their malevolent god instead of the one who scrutinized such thing to find the truth which is science

Scientifically speaking, science generally doesn't believe in soul or spirit.

Everything operates by cause and effect. Science understands this. Something set the cause and effect in motion. Cause and effect produces complexity, especially complexity regarding the brain and mind and intelligence of mankind. Complexity is all around us, in us, and through us.

Anything that can cause mind and intelligence complexity, along with the multitudes of complex cause and effect actions, must be at least as "mental" and as intelligent as the things that it produces. Why? Because universal entropy shows us that complexity is breaking down, just like everything else is.

The "Thing" that set cause and effect and complexity in place at the Beginning fits our dictionary definitions of "God."

Why must there have been a Beginning? Because, if everything had continued forever into the past, entropy would have reduced all complexity to simplicity long ago.

God is the answer. God is outside of our universe, even though He is within it as well. Science proves God as explained above, in this post.

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EDIT: I want to thank everyone who has questioned me about this issue of how science proves the existence of God. Every time someone asks me this, I find ways to answer more clearly and succinctly. So, thanks again.

If all things has cause and effect, there must be something above your god, if you will say nothing because he's god. That would be special pleading.

No pleading involved at all. Cause and effect are only for this universe. To us people, this universe is all that there is, because we are part of it, and not part of anything outside of it. When God is in this universe, He does operate by cause and effect. But because He is outside of it as well, cause and effect constraints do not affect Him.

Quote from: Jmild1 on March 25, 2016, 07:41:35 AM

Appeal to ignorance and gap of the gods is not a valid argument and does't undergo logical thinking. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence

Not sure what you mean by "gap of gods."

There is no argument. Cause and effect, complex universe, and universal entropy are scientifically accepted facts.

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