Quote from: Moloch on March 31, 2016, 11:09:55 PM

Quote from: mprep on March 31, 2016, 09:54:27 PM

P.S. Extra points for calling a moderator of the forum you are discussing in a troll.

Being a mod does not make one superior in any way...

You say I run away and shit... have I? Am I not here?

You are the one who does nothing but insult me... can you try attacking my argument for once?

I have told you several times now that if you want to debate a topic that is good... just pick a topic besides insulting me...

Have you tried staying on topic a single time? We were talking about slavery in the bible and you jump in with a 3-page long post which has nothing to do with slavery... go troll someone else asshole

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Quote from: mprep on March 31, 2016, 09:54:27 PM

P.S. Extra points for calling a moderator of the forum you are discussing in a troll.

Being a mod does not make one superior in any way...

If I was a troll (which breaks the rules), I wouldn't have been selected as a mod or would've been kicked out. However, let's stay on topic and also add in content relevant to the topic's name (feel free to continue though).

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You say I run away and shit... have I? Am I not here?

No, you just seem to plug up your ears and go "lalalalala I can't hear you".

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You are the one who does nothing but insult me... can you try attacking my argument for once?

Oh boy, here we go:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1412734.msg14336544#msg14336544
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1412734.msg14354149#msg14354149

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1412734.msg14354772#msg14354772 <----- Regarding the argument as well as lack of sources within your claims

All of them "attack" your argument or the validity of your arguments' basis. It's just that you don't respond or respond with more source-less and evidence-less claims or just your pathetic "tl;dr" deflection.

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I have told you several times now that if you want to debate a topic that is good... just pick a topic besides insulting me...

I would if you'd stop ignoring my arguments against the claims you've put out. Also, a single topic contains several sub-topics which are used for the formulation of an argument - exactly what you did when you started making various claims (which I provided rebuttal for, which you said is too many topics).

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Have you tried staying on topic a single time? We were talking about slavery in the bible and you jump in with a 3-page long post which has nothing to do with slavery... go troll someone else asshole

Cough, cough... Have you tried taking comprehension classes? The following is entirely about "slavery in the bible" (excuse me for actually providing a comprehensive perspective with the discussion of evidence rather than a watered down and inaccurate "this is not that" statement):

Quote from: mprep on March 31, 2016, 07:45:38 PM

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If you want me to pick, how about slavery in the bible?

You mean the Christian bible (The New Testament)? Because it does overwrite the Old Testament as it was meant as a prophecy (referred to as "gospel") for the coming of Jesus Christ.

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Quote from: mprep on March 31, 2016, 05:16:08 PM

Quote from: Moloch on March 29, 2016, 04:25:43 PM

Christianity has also preached that slavery is lawful and not a bad thing... in both the old and new testament, so don't get all, "but the new testament doesn't say that" on me...

[X]Bold statement with no evidence
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You say I did not provide evidence for this claim, but I did... I said christianity had preached it... the bible supports slavery in at least a dozen places... do you need me to quote the exact verses for you, or are you capable of using google?

Here's the link again since you must have missed it (evidence you claim I didn't provide)

Quote from: Moloch on March 26, 2016, 05:44:59 PM

Slavery:

Quote from: Leviticus 25:44-46

As for your male and female slaves whom you may have: you may buy male and female slaves from among the nations that are around you. You may also buy from among the strangers who sojourn with you and their clans that are with you, who have been born in your land, and they may be your property. You may bequeath them to your sons after you to inherit as a possession forever. You may make slaves of them, but over your brothers the people of Israel you shall not rule, one over another ruthlessly.

Quote from: Exodus 21:20-21

When a man strikes his slave, male or female, with a rod and the slave dies under his hand, he shall be avenged. But if the slave survives a day or two, he is not to be avenged, for the slave is his property.

More slavery in the bible: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bible_and_slavery

See this for my answer to your "evidence":

Quote from: mprep on March 27, 2016, 10:27:13 PM

Leviticus, Exodus and Deuteronomy are all part of the Old Testament (also often referred to as the Hebrew Bible), which is overwritten by the New Testament in many branches (and/or sects) of Christianity. The Old Testament was meant as a holy book for the time (not for eternity) and became obsolete in many situations. Also, in terms of cherry-picking, that's why different branches and sects of both Christianity and other religions exist - there's constant debate (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theology) on what is accepted and what is not, especially as time progresses and our culture changes.

Sources (in terms of what I based the arguments upon):
http://christianity.stackexchange.com/questions/15/do-we-have-to-obey-the-laws-of-the-bible-if-so-what-laws/506#506
http://christianity.stackexchange.com/questions/3733/does-the-new-testament-override-the-old-testament
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What you haven't proven is this (I'll bold and underline your statement I'm concerned with):

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Christianity has also preached that slavery is lawful and not a bad thing... in both the old and new testament

Since, I'm rather bored to wait, I'll get the Wikipedia mention on the New Testament out of the way. It is said in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bible_and_slavery:

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In several Pauline epistles, and the First Epistle of Peter, slaves are admonished to obey their masters, "as to the Lord, and not to men". However, masters were told to serve their slaves "in the same way" and "even better" as "brothers", to not threaten them as God is their Master as well.

First of all, I've looked at the passages that refer to this:

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In several Pauline epistles, and the First Epistle of Peter, slaves are admonished to obey their masters, "as to the Lord, and not to men"

And all the passages linked, the translation in several English versions seems to use the word "servant" rather than "slave", which could be both interpreted as lost in translation (beneficial to your side) and as to cover (regulate, not approve of ) slavery back in the day of Christ (which was a common practice at the time) as well as the current voluntary employment. There is however no positive (a.k.a. reinforcing) mention of the act of enslavement. From what I can logically deduct, said writings were meant to address the status quo, rather than encourage the act of slavery (taking new slaves). This view is also reinforced taking in consideration the following part of the quote:

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However, masters were told to serve their slaves "in the same way" and "even better" as "brothers", to not threaten them as God is their Master as well.

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