Quote from: Moloch on April 01, 2016, 12:08:47 AM

Quote from: mprep on April 01, 2016, 12:00:20 AM

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So, you are claiming that although the bible condones slavery, it was "the good kind of slavery"? That's your defense?

My defense in said post is that the bible regulates the situation back then (when slavery was common), however expressed no support of the act of enslavement.

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Where is the support for this? You claim it's in the bible, but it's not... slavery in the bible is very cruel and quite descriptive... it included things like, "you are allowed to beat your slave so long as he does not die within 2 days"

That's Old Testament. When referring to the Christian bible, the New Testament is implied. The Old Testament was meant for the time before the coming of Christ (which by those practicing Judaism is THE bible since they don't consider Jesus as the son of God and are still waiting for one (the reason for 2 religions - Christianity and Judaism - instead of one)). I already linked it in this post but here's a rather brief explanation in regards to the Old Testament: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1412734.msg14336544#msg14336544

That's the dumbest argument christians have ever made...

This whole notion of the New Testament overwriting the Old Testament is complete horseshit nonsense that is not supported anywhere in the bible or dogma of christianity

You cannot possibly say you believe the creation story, flood, exodus, and 10-commandments are 100% true and accurate, but the other 603 commandments in the Old Testament don't count... that's bullshit cherry-picking to the extreme

Besides, Jesus himself said, "Not a jot or tittle of the Law will change until I return" (speaking of Mosaic law, the Old Testament laws!)

Quote from: Matthew 5:18-19

For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

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That's the dumbest argument christians have ever made...

This whole notion of the New Testament overwriting the Old Testament is complete horseshit nonsense that is not supported anywhere in the bible or dogma of christianity

I'd have to disagree:

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Christianity is an Abrahamic monotheistic religion based on the life and teachings of Jesus Christ as presented in the New Testament. <...> Christians believe that Jesus is the Son of God and the savior of humanity whose coming as Christ or the Messiah was prophesied in the Old Testament.

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity

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You cannot possibly say you believe the creation story, flood, exodus

As metaphors for creation of the universal system (governed by the laws of physics, chemistry, biology, etc.) and a conscious species within said system, the downfall due to conscious species' inability to control itself and then the humanity's search for purpose.

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and 10-commandments are 100% true and accurate

I never claimed that. I believe that part of it was either lost as history progressed (there isn't an original copy in existence, just a bunch of early copies) or lost in translation as it went through numerous people with different cultural backgrounds.

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but the other 603 commandments in the Old Testament don't count... that's bullshit cherry-picking to the extreme

The general consensus seems that it is not to be used for moral purposes , but more as a "prophecy" that was already fullfilled.

Also, in terms of the 10 commandments:

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This is love for God: to obey his commands. And his commands are not burdensome (1 John 5:3). The Ten Commandments were essentially a summary of the entire Old Testament law. Nine of the Ten Commandments are clearly repeated in the New Testament (all except the command to observe the Sabbath day). Obviously, if we are loving God, we will not be worshipping false gods or bowing down before idols. If we are loving our neighbors, we will not be murdering them, lying to them, committing adultery against them, or coveting what belongs to them.

Source: http://www.gotquestions.org/Christian-law.html

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Besides, Jesus himself said, "Not a jot or tittle of the Law will change until I return" (speaking of Mosaic law, the Old Testament laws!)

Quote from: Matthew 5:18-19

For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

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When Jesus died on the cross, He put an end to the Old Testament law (Romans 10:4; Galatians 3:2325; Ephesians 2:15).

Source: http://www.gotquestions.org/Christian-law.html