Quote from: Moloch on April 01, 2016, 04:29:53 PM

Quote from: mprep on April 01, 2016, 12:48:49 AM

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You cannot possibly say you believe the creation story, flood, exodus and 10-commandments are 100% true and accurate, but the other 603 commandments in the Old Testament don't count... that's bullshit cherry-picking to the extreme

The general consensus seems that it is not to be used for moral purposes , but more as a "prophecy" that was already fullfilled.

As metaphors for creation of the universal system (governed by the laws of physics, chemistry, biology, etc.) and a conscious species within said system, the downfall due to conscious species' inability to control itself and then the humanity's search for purpose.

I believe that part of it was either lost as history progressed (there isn't an original copy in existence, just a bunch of early copies) or lost in translation as it went through numerous people with different cultural backgrounds.

Complete nonsense... General consensus?!? Where do you get that idea? Have you met other Christians before? There is no consensus about anything... Ever heard of a Fundamentalist? They take the bible literally... they absolutely believe the old testament is 100% literal, no metaphors at all...

Who are you to decide what verses God meant to be literal vs metaphor? How do you claim any of it is metaphor? Do you speak for God? God writes literally, he does not claim anything is a metaphor in the entire bible... if you think it's a metaphor, that is your personal interpretation and you do not speak for God or all Christians... sorry...

Quote from: mprep on April 01, 2016, 12:48:49 AM

Also, in terms of the 10 commandments:

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This is love for God: to obey his commands. And his commands are not burdensome (1 John 5:3). The Ten Commandments were essentially a summary of the entire Old Testament law. Nine of the Ten Commandments are clearly repeated in the New Testament (all except the command to observe the Sabbath day). Obviously, if we are loving God, we will not be worshipping false gods or bowing down before idols. If we are loving our neighbors, we will not be murdering them, lying to them, committing adultery against them, or coveting what belongs to them.

Source: http://www.gotquestions.org/Christian-law.html

Also complete nonsense... Do you seriously believe the 10-commandments are a summary of the entire Old Testament law?!?!? WTF do you get this crazy bullshit that no other Christian has ever said?

Have you read the Old Testament? Are you familiar with the 613 laws? And you think the 10-commandments are a summary of the 613 laws?!? NO... NO... If you make me prove this to you... fuck you... you don't know shit and are not worthy of my time
Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/613_commandments#Maimonides.27_list

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Complete nonsense... General consensus?!? Where do you get that idea? Have you met other Christians before? There is no consensus about anything...

There's quite a few disagreements in various branches/sects of Christianity, however, the fact that it is overwritten by the New Testament in terms of morality is the primary difference between Judaism and Christianity. There are, however, sects or fundamentalists of certain branches that believe otherwise. It's general consensus, not absolute.

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Ever heard of a Fundamentalist? They take the bible literally... they absolutely believe the old testament is 100% literal, no metaphors at all...

Which I thoroughly disagree with and actually find agnostic atheism with basic morality as governed by the current civilized society better than the extremely fundamental Christianity. So I don't think there's a disagreement on this point.

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Have you read the Old Testament? Are you familiar with the 613 laws? And you think the 10-commandments are a summary of the 613 laws?!?

Summary of general moral values, not only meant for the time. It's supposed to strip out the cultural and societal structures at the time and get to the core of what the religion (before the crucifixion of Jesus Christ, because after said event the New Testament becomes THE document for the morality in the Christian religion) teaches.

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NO... NO... If you make me prove this to you... fuck you... you don't know shit and are not worthy of my time

Such a compelling argument with tons of proof /sarcasm. In all seriousness, if you think I'm "not worthy of" your time, feel free to stop responding rather than continuing to scream and shout, while tripping over your own logical fallacies and evidence-less (as well as sourceless) claims that seem to be primarily backed by the "I know, trust me" confirmation.