Quote from: Bagus Tubagus on April 10, 2016, 08:47:36 AM

If you could change client seed every single roll it would be OK, but since you can't, house actually knows what the income of the roll will be.
But if house would change any of the seeds/nonces, players would eventually found out.

Thats the conclusion I came to. Not just the roll, but every roll which you will roll in order from the time you roll your first roll with a client seed. The outcomes/roll #s could be output into a spreadsheet and they would know (or their system) every roll forward.

So I guess back to what I've asked a few times... but no one touches the subject. The sites all claim, including PrimeDice that they have a sophisticated "random number generator" to determine the roll outcome. But random means just that. A roll could be "anything".

A random roll means this next roll could come up as "any outcome" because it is random.

But if the seed is set. You can't change it. The roll has already been determined. The house knows it. It is a number which has already been determined. This does not fit the definition of random.

It seems the only "aspect" of the randomness is you can set your own seed. But they still know. And you're limited to changing it once every 10 minutes or so.

So the rolls are not random.

I agree the house could not change the nonces/seeds. But they have certainly have the ability to "pull the plug" and claim "server outage", technical failure, upgrade, internet out, etc, and stay down/offline for a while, hoping that the dark time will get the player who say had a "big" win coming up based on his betting increases/roll behavior (rolling all low, all high, swapping back and forth), to reset his bet to base or start with a different pattern of bets.