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Religion is meant for the 'weak', and yet, atheist are equally as close-minded as religious people. Saying something unknown doesn't exist for sure is just as dumb as saying it does without any foundation. People who denied the existence of an american continent were equally as close-minded as those who believed the other extreme.
Agnosticism allows to say 'I don't know' in order to build a bi-optional foundation. Let's find out without any bias, and let faith help those who need it.
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Atheism does not mean a person knows for certain there is no God

Atheism is simply a rejection of any (or all) specific Gods...

Christians say their God exists... I don't believe them... I'm an Atheist... same goes for Hindu, Muslim, etc... I don't believe any of them

To compare it to a courtroom... Atheism would be finding the defense, "not guilty beyond a reasonable doubt" (you have not proven God exists)... which is different from "innocent" (God does not exist)

Atheism is a statement about belief, and Agnostic is a statement about knowledge... the two are not mutually exclusive... (you can be an Agnostic Atheist, or a Gnostic Atheist... just like you can be a Gnostic or Agnostic Christian)

Also, nobody knows for certain (everyone is an agnostic)... anyone who claims to know for certain is a liar or a fool

"Atheism is, in a broad sense, the rejection of belief in the existence of deities.[1][2] In a narrower sense, atheism is specifically the position that there are no deities." -Wikipedia
You might be right though Shocked

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At least I can see your point

Rather than using a wiki, it's best to ask atheists what they believe:

https://atheists.org/activism/resources/what-is-atheism

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WHAT IS ATHEISM?

No one asks this question enough.

The reason no one asks this question a lot is because most people have preconceived ideas and notions about what an Atheist is and is not. Where these preconceived ideas come from varies, but they tend to evolve from theistic influences or other sources.

Atheism is usually defined incorrectly as a belief system. Atheism is not a disbelief in gods or a denial of gods; it is a lack of belief in gods. Older dictionaries define atheism as "a belief that there is no God." Some dictionaries even go so far as to define Atheism as "wickedness," "sinfulness," and other derogatory adjectives. Clearly, theistic influence taints dictionaries. People cannot trust these dictionaries to define atheism. The fact that dictionaries define Atheism as "there is no God" betrays the (mono)theistic influence. Without the (mono)theistic influence, the definition would at least read "there are no gods."

Why should atheists allow theists to define who atheists are? Do other minorities allow the majority to define their character, views, and opinions? No, they do not. So why does everyone expect atheists to lie down and accept the definition placed upon them by the worlds theists? Atheists will define themselves.

Atheism is not a belief system nor is it a religion. While there are some religions that are atheistic (certain sects of Buddhism, for example), that does not mean that atheism is a religion. Two commonly used retorts to the nonsense that atheism is a religion are: 1) If atheism is a religion then bald is a hair color, and 2) If atheism is a religion then health is a disease. A new one introduced in 2012 by Bill Maher is, "If atheism is a religion, then abstinence is a sexual position."

The only common thread that ties all atheists together is a lack of belief in gods and supernatural beings. Some of the best debates we have ever had have been with fellow atheists. This is because atheists do not have a common belief system, sacred scripture or atheist Pope. This means atheists often disagree on many issues and ideas. Atheists come in a variety of shapes, colors, beliefs, convictions, and backgrounds. We are as unique as our fingerprints.

Then ask those same atheists if they are telling the truth or only dreaming. Cool

Why? How does dreaming come in to the question of what someone thinks?

I know religious prophets have dreams of gods, do you mean the same thing happens here?

The idea isn't literal dreaming. The idea is a forced day dreaming, to make it seem reality.

Science talks about cause and effect as though it is the basis for everything. A scientist is great only after he has mastered seeking the causes for any effects.

Entropy suggests that complexity is waning. And, entropy seems to be universal as far as we can tell, even though there are flares of complexity now and again... flares which are culminations of combining of that which is even more complex.

If God happens to NOT be proven by this, God is highly suggested. So, what kind of day dreaming is it that atheists use to get them selves to so adamantly resist any idea that God exists, while at the same time so emphatically accept the sciences of cause and effect, complex universe, and universal complexity.

Everyone lies to himself one way or another. What strength of mind these atheists must have to lie to themselves in such a great way as to accept science, but resist the greatest thing science is showing them!

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