Quote from: altsheets on April 23, 2016, 12:09:02 PM

Thanks BurstDevTeam - for wasting my time Wink

First of all, it was clearly ironic - see the Wink

Secondly, thanks to the generous crowdfunders who actually tried to give 2000 BURST = 0.42 dollars. There is the 42 again

You probably got them back, my small project was not funded.

Quote from: StakePool on April 23, 2016, 12:27:38 PM

Wow, check out the attitude on this guy

... now you really got me into ... helping you to try changing perspective - for once ...

This is the visible time I have invested here:

And that is only the openly visible time invested. As parts of your system, UX, documentation are still clearly beta (which is fine, stuff takes time - I am just trying to point to places which make it difficult for someone coming in - in the hope that they will perhaps get improved) ... it took me a lot of more time to fiddle around with it, and asking - to finally get it working.

To be able to get to such better-than-the-average postings, I needed a lot of my own time to play with your software.

In my books that is a lot of free and freely given open source contributions.

You are of a different opinion, I can see that. But I am inviting you to see the full picture, re-evaluate - and next time better wait an hour before you post ~~aggressive~~ stuff like:

Quote from: StakePool on April 23, 2016, 12:27:38 PM

Wow, check out the attitude on this guy ...
... your attitude was even worse ...

and:

Quote from: StakePool on April 23, 2016, 12:27:38 PM

If all the devs had your attitude then it would be safe to say that cryptocurrency would not exist as we know it today.

Not my attitude.

You might be projecting some kind of (probably very understandable, but still unhelpful) ~~anger about the world as such~~ negativity onto an individual who is not deserving this contempt.

Let me even turn that around: If more 'users' (*) actually were like me - then open source projects would benefit a lot, and could get from beta to production much faster, and be more useful, prettier, slicker, and even more lucrative - for everyone.

(*) in the least positive way this word can be used, because too many users are showing a really ugly 'consumer attitude' and never ever really contribute constructively. Demanding all day from their hardworking devs to make the coinprice go boom. Those are the useless freeriders that really deserve contempt. By buying into a coin, they think they can demand that the price goes up to make them rich - but they are not doing anything for it, apart of investing money. Just investing excess money somewhere, for hoarding it - is the cheapest thing to do, really.

In contrast, to invest lifetime, talent, ideas, concepts, code, tools, improvements, products - that is valuable.

I know that our current world capitalism 2.0 is going away from that, it is cherishing the "investor spirit". But those are just rich people, and some of them got rich because they would never even think about giving back, to anyone. The least valuable contributors to our common world. Parasites. The planet is ill.

Some others have accepted that greater wealth - of course - comes with greater obligations to care for the greater good. E.g. this here:

Quote from: crowetic on April 13, 2016, 04:11:01 PM

One of our angels just donated me another 1.2 million to finish this funding.

^ to add a more balanced view here.

Ma (alibaba.com) once said "for me, first come the customers, then the employees, and only third are the investors" (in my words, but the meaning was that one).

Here, in the past weeks, I have focussed on the "customers", to make their experience better.
And helped the "employees", the devs, to point to places, and shared constructive solutions, to make everything better.
And yes, thirdly I asked "investors", to share 0.01579 % of the wealth of this system. They didn't which might prove my point, or not.

Quote from: StakePool on April 23, 2016, 12:27:38 PM

Your timing was wrong ... Your timing was bad because you started your CF towards the end of a very important android mining related CF

Not relevant. My crowdfunding was a microscopic one, compared to that CF you are mentioning, which of course is dozens of times more important than a blockchain aware countdown server.

Not relevant. The timing was caused by the invitation to do a crowdfunding. I was told to, then I worked through your undocumented & yet suboptimally designed tool chain to do it - and as soon as I finally got it working, I just submitted that crowdfunding.

Not relevant. This is a scene of highly intelligent, and complexity handling people - so to look at two or three CFs at the same time should be possible, no?

And again: I was asking for a tiny amount of money, not like 4 million or such - because the work & tool I had been offering - was a small one, to test the waters. I have more tools that are already working very well, on NXT and HZ, and of course I could port them too - if there was even a bit of interest in those. Now is not, no problem. That I can utter my disappointment ... I am taking the right to do that. But I do not take all this too seriously. Why get agitated about such a sum? But to get derided, and compared to lesser individuals - I am not willing to take that. So ... here is my answer. Sorry for the length of the text, but writing shorter texts is taking more time, and I don't have too much time right now.

But all is cool.

The time for this is not now, seemingly.

And also, my period in which I had time for such an idealistic contribution burst like the above listed, in exchange for 5$ donations ... has perhaps come to an end for me now, at least for a while. I actually really liked to work this way, asking for donations - because such money transfer is connecting real people with each other. Giving feels good. Receiving direct personal rewards from that exceptional minority feels good. But the monetary outcome has often been ridiculous, so I need to force myself to do that less.
Even if you changed your mind, and suddenly really wanted me to contribute to BURST, I myself could not afford to anymore. Which is good. I am really busy recently, and I start to get paid real money for my excellent work - which of cause is important, because carbon based that I am, my body needs a neverending stream of calories, and the most canonic way right now to get them is ... money. So one or the other way, I have to make the world allocate money to me. And yes, I had made a habit of it ... that when I am freely giving so much of my precious life time, that I am then not to proud to visibly ask for donations. I encourage people to try that, it is a very human experience.

There are some subscenes here in cryptoland, which have already understood that sharing and giving, to support all kinds of little and big projects, makes a lot of sense - because they want to enrich their whole ecosystem. Coins that are used for interesting stuff, people, initiatives ... those are valuable coins. In those subscenes, people can do little and bigger things, then ask for donations, and the (admittedly still few) good, grown-up, clever souls ... are really sharing some of their (sometimes immense) wealth. And not only because they are altruists - but because it makes economic sense to feed those who are contributing.

Other subscenes are still very tight, and ego, and think that keeping, hoarding, and hodling coins is the way to get rich. When they donate, their main thought is that they are loosing money.

The difference is not so much technological, it is mainly cultural.

I have been observing this thread for quite a while. Most of you are all about mining. That is the supply side of coins. If that works for you, just continue.

One possible economic consequence is an immense sell pressure. If the focus is on the supply side, then markets oversaturate. The slightest sell can cause the price to fall bottomless. Boiled down to your case: The 150 mio BURST locked in at 3 exchanges, compared to the 25 BTC that are locked into BUY orders - are showing that the current 49 Satoshi is approx three times too high to call it an equalized market. No worries, that is similar in the vast majority of other cryptocoins too. One of the reasons why it is so risky to invest into most cryptos.

But some cryptos have actually worked themselves out of that trap of impending doom. Their markets are equalized, the total buy orders are matching the total sell orders.

One day you might notice that it makes sense to focus more on the demand side. What can your mined coins actually be used for.

Perhaps then you remember me. Some of my tools (see current signature - might change in the future), or other tools of other people that are not about mining mining mining ... might become more attractive to you.

Perhaps you contact me then. Perhaps not. I might not invest myself even more right now. I also get the growing feeling, that somehow I am annoying some people here. I do get ignored. Attention is the real currency of our times.

But no hard feelings. All this were voluntary contributions. For me it was a valuable experiment, because I can now better asses your culture here. Real life experiments, human-to-human interactions based in money, can help much to unravel reality, I really like that about cryptos.

Happy mining.

Enjoy your BURSTs of good moments.

If you like this, you can show it: BURST-ESVR-L2WJ-NT3Y-BWM6V - Perhaps first read this old but still valid GIVEBACK-LICENSE text linked here - thx.

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