Quote from: mmm01 on April 25, 2016, 11:15:02 PM

Quote from: LordofBTC on April 25, 2016, 10:59:02 PM

Quote from: djnocide on April 25, 2016, 10:53:27 PM

Trying to manipulate the market is unethical.
Make people loose money because you try to dump the price to buy cheap, is pretty damn low.
First i was on your side when people decided to throw rocks at you for pointing out problems on the site but now the kind of actions you're doing is pretty damn low. You're loosing credibility with those actions, instead of acting like an adult you're trying to destroy what was created. You want the problems solved but if it,s not done in 24h, you loose your mind.
That kind of projects will have a lot of problems a the beginning and actions required to solve them can't be taken lightly. There's a team behind this project not only one person, so the actions required to solve problems you point out, need to be accepted by the majority of the team.
It seems like you've never been part of a team working on a project.
Start your own betting website and let's see how it turns out.

I agree, Phil is acting unreasonable here. However, the latest response from the dev is not at all what I expected. The dev acknowledges the problem but does not think it is important, when in my(and obviously Phil's) opinion it is. I am not going to go around yelling in 24 hours, but I think this is a serious problem if people are losing money because the platform is not showing the correct matches and there is no real response from the company in terms of refunds etc. I understand that it is hard to check every single game, but for the one I brought up for example, seeing a "filler pic" instead of an actual team should definitely ring a bell when money is on the line. Of course, the user doesn't have to bet, but in some cases he/she may be thinking that he/she is betting on a particular team when that team is not even playing a game(or not on that date at the very least, that has happened to me multiple times now with League of Legends games and wrong dates). I hope we could turn this thread into a more peaceful environment, and hopefully the "spam" will decrease as these issues are fixed:) Happy betting!

I think dev has been pretty nice to phil up until this point. Dev is probably working hard daily, posts progress just about each day if not everyday, weekly chat sessions. Site has gone down to fix some of the issues that have come up. When you are spending all your time on a project and someone goes from saying man this is a great project and does a complete 180 and then says man I think the devs are scamming me out of my 5 dollars I've found this bug, that bug etc... Now there is a serious problem here I'm being ripped off.... pointing fingers etc... It is only human to feel backed into a corner. I'm sure the dev knows the importance of showing the correct matches, updating changes, and possible refunding of bets during certain instances, but the guy is being such an annoying prick, I give the dev credit for holding out for so long dealing with it. Phil himself doesn't even bet responsibly, bets on all matches and brings up nonsensical claims of "oh you didn't tell me a draw is possible in this instance maybe i would have picked it if you held my hand." Like come on you can only put up with so much to the point where you get fed up. I think the dev made an error in judgement in his response, but I don't quite blame him when you are getting nagged constantly you are bound to get flustered.

That's a good point, but I still hope Phil gets refunded or whatever because that is only fair and that is how a real world business deals with unhappy customers, we have to be realistic here and understand that people from outside of crypto would not tolerate even a single mishap like this considering there are many more similar sites they could try, some of which are not even bad in the first place(though there are problems with US customers and regulations etc)