Quote from: Moloch on April 29, 2016, 06:30:52 PM

Quote from: Razick on April 27, 2016, 08:33:45 PM

Maybe you should actually read the Bible before you bash it. I edited your post to fix some inaccuracies:

Quote from: Moloch on March 26, 2016, 04:19:48 PM

Quote from: vero on March 26, 2016, 09:25:06 AM

religion will teach you how to be a better person, we can't compare all religion where are good it's back to your self. where you faith believe in Buddhism, Islam, Christianity, Hinduism, Catholicism, atheists, Unreligious. so i never think Christianity is Poison or other religion is Poison, in my view all religion is same.

Religion does ~~not~~ teach you to be a better person...

~~Religion teaches you to own slaves~~ (Slavery in the bible is nothing like American or modern slavery. That said Christians strongly believe slavery is wrong.), ~~rape women~~ (Absolutely not! Exodus 20:13), murder homosexuals (Absolutely not! Exodus 20:13), murder witches (Absolutely not! Exodus 20:13), murder your own children (Absolutely not! You have misinterpreted the story by a long shot), etc...

Basically, religion teaches you to be a ~~hateful~~ (John 4:20, Proverbs 4:12) ~~narcissistic bigot~~ (Proverbs 29:23, James 4:6), who thinks God loves you more than other people (yes, he does love us more than anyone on earth: For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.)...

If you managed to learn something good from religion, you did [not do] that on your own... ~~please do not give religion credit for your own deeds~~ "for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and are justified by his grace as a gift, through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus... Then what becomes of our boasting? It is excluded."

Your "corrections" are simply false... Have you read the bible? Don't claim you know more about it than I do... you don't

Slavery in the bible was not some nice thing, like you pretend it was... there are plenty of quotes I could pull from the bible, such as:

Quote from: Exodus 21:20-21

If a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod and he dies at his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, he survives a day or two, no vengeance shall be taken; for he is his property

Yeah, sounds nice... slaves are property, and you are allowed to beat them so long as it does not kill them within 48 hours

The bible also says slaves are property for life, and they can be passed down to your children (Leviticus 25:44)

Rape is justified on many occasions... Have you read the story of Sodom and Gomorrah? Lot hands his virgin daughters to an angry mob to be raped... and this is a good thing according to god...

The bible says, "If a man rapes a virgin woman, he must marry her, and pay her father the bride price of 50 shekels" (Deuteronomy 22:28-29)... I suppose that's a good way to find a wife if you happen to be a super ugly man... not very moral though

Yes the bible commands you to murder homosexuals... don't pretend you have never heard that one before... Leviticus 20:13... ring a bell?

Quote from: Leviticus 20:13

If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads

Witches:

Quote from: Exodus 22:18

Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live

Genocide:

Quote from: Deuteronomy 2:3334

The Lord our God delivered him over to us, and we defeated him with his sons and all his people.
So we captured all his cities at that time and utterly destroyed the men, women and children of every city. We left no survivor

Quote from: Deuteronomy 3:3-6

So the LORD our God delivered into our hands Og also, the king of Bashan, and all his people: and we smote him until none was left to him remaining.
And we took all his cities at that time, there was not a city which we took not from them, threescore cities, all the region of Argob, the kingdom of Og in Bashan.
All these cities were fenced with high walls, gates, and bars; beside unwalled towns a great many.
And we utterly destroyed them, as we did unto Sihon king of Heshbon, utterly destroying the men, women, and children, of every city

For those new to math, threescore = 60... 60 cities... if that isn't genocide, I don't know what is...

More genocide in the bible:

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And when the LORD thy God shall deliver them before thee; thou shalt smite them, and utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor shew mercy unto them. Deuteronomy 7:2

And thou shalt consume all the people which the LORD thy God shall deliver thee; thine eye shall have no pity upon them. Deuteronomy 7:16

Thou shalt surely smite the inhabitants of that city with the edge of the sword, destroying it utterly, and all that is therein, and the cattle thereof, with the edge of the sword. Deuteronomy 13:15

But of the cities of these people, which the LORD thy God doth give thee for an inheritance, thou shalt save alive nothing that breatheth. Deuteronomy 20:16-17

And they utterly destroyed all that was in the city, both man and woman, young and old, and ox, and sheep, and ass, with the edge of the sword. Joshua 6:21

So smote all the country ... he left none remaining, but utterly destroyed all that breathed, as the LORD God of Israel commanded. Joshua 10:40

Thus saith the LORD of hosts ... go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass. 1 Samuel 15:2-3

Let us not forget about the flood... god personally kills everyone except for 9 people... That isn't genocide?

Major points about all this.

1. God made it all. It was His right from the Beginning. He not only has the ability to do with His property as He wants, but He has the right to dictate how things are to be done.

2. It was God's property from the Beginning. Then man wrecked it by eating the fruit. Then God in mercy didn't destroy mankind for messing it all up. So, it all now belongs to God twice... the first when He made it all, and the second when He withheld His destruction.

3. You complain about God and His judgments. Well, God's mercy to you is the time He has left for you to change and humbly submit to Him rather than speaking against Him.

4. The final rule God will make for each one of us will be in the judgment at the last day. Badmouth God and His mercy all you want. You are still His property. He still rules you. Be thankful He has given you time to blabber your head off. If you don't turn to be on His side, you will have all eternity to suffer for it. God rules.

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