Quote from: NLNico on May 01, 2016, 03:08:29 AM

Quote from: Fring on April 30, 2016, 06:01:25 PM

Quote from: seuntjie on April 06, 2016, 09:58:01 AM

Remember that the max profit is set by the investors and how much they risk. One thing that bothers me is that even if everyone on the site had their risk set to 10 kelly, max bet should not have been this high.

Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but 10 kelly means I'm willing to risk 10% of my bankroll on a single bet. So how was it possible that the max profit was nearly 95% of the actual bankroll? there might be some trickery with the variable edge at play here that i'm forgetting about

Did this ever get answered? I guess maybe I should have learned more about how their investment structure works, but I too wasn't thinking it was possible to get wiped out like that.

I may have still taken the risk, I don't know. I've invested in various dice sites and you never check them a few weeks later and see that you lost like basically the whole thing lol. I don't ever remember a swing of more than 20%, even on 10x Kelly. (Not trying to hate on SD, just confused and making sure it worked how it was supposed to work.)

Mm yes.. my reply right after that post explains why it was more than 10%? Basically it is because they had a dynamic house edge which could be relatively high up to 10%. Other sites do not have this. In theory that's nice, because you can allow players to bet bigger while the investors have a bigger edge. But afterwards it was way too risky. With the 10x kelly option, this meant the max profit of 1 bet could become a very big part of the bankroll (up to 100% lol.)

Quote from: NLNico on April 06, 2016, 10:03:59 AM

Quote from: seuntjie on April 06, 2016, 09:58:01 AM

Remember that the max profit is set by the investors and how much they risk. One thing that bothers me is that even if everyone on the site had their risk set to 10 kelly, max bet should not have been this high.

Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but 10 kelly means I'm willing to risk 10% of my bankroll on a single bet. So how was it possible that the max profit was nearly 95% of the actual bankroll? there might be some trickery with the variable edge at play here that i'm forgetting about

Max profit = kelly * HE.

Normally (on most sites) HE is 1% so we always just assume 10x kelly is 10% of your BR. However in this case the bet was 8% HE which means 80% of BR was risked.

For what it's worth: the max HE and max kelly are both lowered now.

Thanks for answering. Makes sense.