Quote from: bahamapascal on May 03, 2016, 06:01:16 PM

Quote from: banqueiro on May 03, 2016, 02:54:22 PM

Quote from: wesgen on May 03, 2016, 09:15:10 AM

I think that more information and/or reminders need to be shared officially and in a coordinated manner from all now ...I say this because the majority of posts in this thread and in the ANN thread now are mainly either:
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ppl wanting to know when the main-net will be up and stable
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non official talk about 'it's coming soon'
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and the only official talk coming is 'please test' and 'please start projects, start promoting, donate to foundation' and everything is in the hands of the community now - That's an understandable pov, however, I also think that this is also being communicated a bit poorly maybe under the assumption that everyone will understand/know what to do. Let's be real..there are some just here to turn a profit or just to build projects.. and the fact is we need both persona types. However if little information is shared then people can't promote effectively nor can they build projects..the tangle is still something many devs would need to wrap their head around.

I'm not a crypto dev but I've been doing my part with testing and talking to people about it in my region but where I'm from it's to much to wrap their heads around...generally it's probably years behind IoT progression. It's extremely hard to get bitcoin here far less for any other crypto technology to adopt in businesses etc..I only have a tiny portion of IOTA and still pledged. All that to say that I'm still trying to do my part. I want to see this succeed and add technology value..not only monetary value.

A few suggestions:

-Email to the mailing list as mentioned in my other post above.
-Setup the foundation and deal addresses even though we're still in beta..hopefully we won't have to rollback/repeat those txns - We don't need pledges now..we need real actionable IOTA transfers to accounts towards these goals.
-Try a shorter term positive reinforcement strategy..e.g inform us of a small bit of not so cryptic info of plans/easter eggs/whatever and the only way we can hear the next piece of nugget info is for the community to do X or Y in Z timeframe -- for instance 200k txns = info nugget 1, 500 txns = info nugget 2 etc. It can hopefully psychologically increase urgency to the situation.

I could be wrong but maybe those things might help..

Let's not get stuck in a chicken/egg scenario here..we can all do this together Cheesy

I have to agree Sad

My complaint at this moment is, specifically, being emotionally blackmailed into "testing" (or else there will be no coin launch), but not having enough information in order to allow me to do anything useful.... As if everyone here (investors) are hackers... at least, I am not, and it is not so simple for me to download a bunch of weird files and start testing the network in order to see it eventually launched on exchanges...

It is NOT easy to receive help for a newbie who decides to try to help as demanded in necessary exchange for a coin launch...

I will not even talk about the conditioning the successful launch to donations or big deals... because I hold so little IOTA, anyway, so I could not donate enough to fulfill their desire for donations, while I see a huge amount of IOTA being negotiated by, obvious, large holders...

Sorry to disturb, but I had to give my support to wesgen as I saw him being ignored here, and I know he is not wrong in his complaints...

You will get support for testing if you join http://chat.iotatoken.com/channel/iotatesting

Note that currently we are waiting for version 0.9.4 to start testing again.
Also I will write a detailed guide how to help with testing once 0.9.4 is released.

Thank you.

Quote from: iotatoken on May 03, 2016, 07:10:38 PM

Did someone just say they were blackmailed for being asked to test the software they bought? Is this real life? You bought Internet-of-Things tech but can't even participate in testing? That means you're a pure speculator with zero interest in IOTA itself, only a fast profit, in which case: fuck off.

Great answer Roll Eyes