Quote from: Hyena on May 04, 2016, 07:37:54 PM

Quote from: meh32123 on May 04, 2016, 06:59:07 PM

Of course... but for now, you are governed, if you like it or not. Thats just how a government rolls, they don't asks for your permission, they just take the money and provide you with services you might want. (owh and of course we all know who is really benefiting from all these government services..... the government herself)

quite true. I was wondering today what if I never gave any signature to anywhere. would I then be a free man? In theory it seems to be possible to live like that. Just pay in cash for goods and services and pay only the taxes that are fair (VAT, for example). Do not form a contract with any bank, demand payments in cash or bitcoins and when at the job interview, demand the amount of money your would get AFTER TAXES. This way you are not paying any taxes, not even the income tax because you made a specific payment requirement and you don't have to give a damn how your employer and the government settle this out.

Then you would still not be completely free, you already state it yourself multiple times. You mention VAT and money "after taxes". You even state that VAT is fair... wtf.... Armed robbery is never fair. They should never ever get their sticky hands on your hard earned money (cash/bitcoins/gold/numbers on a bankaccount/rocks/etc.) In addition the government will still demand taxes for your garbage collection or property rights or what ever, and they WILL take it from you.

Besides giving a signature is perfectly fine, i mean if its your choice to make a contract with bank, whats the problem then? In fact the things that are forced upon you, without you needing to sign/forcing you to sign, THAT is the problem. That is suppression.