Quote from: dzimbeck on May 09, 2016, 07:56:38 PM

Quote from: erok on May 09, 2016, 05:05:40 PM

I am a huge fan of i2p as well! And the checklocktimeverify idea and PoL

! The mesh network idea though and your concerns about IP tracking and mac signatures could be addressed in linux (standard procedure to use macchanger in kali for instance) and I think an entire OS with proxies baked-in is the solution (i2p). macchanger could be scripted on boot to rotate through different addresses so unique signatures are avoided. Custom distros for crypto is inevitable if security/anonymity is really a concern imo.

Thanks for the info on Macchanger. I realize there is a lot of Linux based security solutions like Tails for instance.

What I meant by mesh network was a future tech solution, its obviously not anything practical we have access to today. But, its my feeling that the only way to truly change things is decentralize media and thus 3d printed electronics is one of my favorite candidates for it.
You have too much censorship on "google" and on all the internet in general. In fact, google almost anything of importance and the search engine itself will lie to you. First 2 pages is usually nothing but propaganda. Removing IP protocol entirely and also encouraging everyday consumers to do it with an open source 3d printable cell phone or router is the way to go about that. You can't expect consumers to want to switch unless its free and accessible to the extremely lazy and backwards compatible to their previous platform. A 3d printer could do that and minimize their effort of participating.

Plus there is ICANN and other things. It is unrealistic to think consumers will use domain name resolution on a blockchain(like namecoin for example, good idea but people forget blockchains are payment systems before they are notary systems and the coin must function as a payment system FIRST or else it will not succeed). However the consumers might use these alternative systems if they had free cellphones and free internet with a totally different IP protocol as long as they could print it from the comfort of their couch/beds while they watch Jerry Springer.

But thats just my best guess with available techology today. For now its obviously a dream, may never come to fruition. 3d printed electronics are not ready yet. Graphene printers are breaking some ice but still young tech. Plus getting materials is still in its infancy.

Solutions like Bitmessage, Crypto, Halo, etc exist today can be downloaded as proof of concept and immediately be improved.

So yeah I like the idea of making a Linux build that does all this for you.

My major issue with Linux is lack of user friendliness and UI. Being open source, they expect you to do a lot from the terminal. But unfortunately, consumers want user interface. That was the first criticism I had with my software and I'm sure you guys can sympathize here. If you don't hold the users hands with a fully immersive UI they won't care about the tech.

So Linux needs a better UI and honestly with KDE it seems like a big improvement can be made since they use the very fungible QT platform. So its a good start. And improvements can and should be made to make it so brand new users never have to see the console but still have access to automation scripts that pull from repositories and build and download all dependencies. So they still get the open source but don't need to know anything about the computer to get it.

This is why I commend Shadows use of an installer. Good idea. I wonder about Linux users and their variety of UI options if your installer will work in those situations. Not to mention multiple platforms like Mac and Windows.

I find the majority of my job consists of catering to shitty operating systems and fixing bugs that should never have been there in the first place. (like in windows I had to use a runasadmin trick to prevent the program from not booting on some overly security conscious versions of windows that block anything a new program tries to do)

And Mac I just said screw it and used winebottler

I was admin on a mesh Meraki network. Which is what really showed me the true value of true autonomous decentralization. Screw coin mixing on some server in someone's garage. The solution needs to be ground up sustainable from any one node the same as it would be for the next node while all nodes bear the brute of the network. I fully agree people don't want terminal anything. Which is why a refined linux solution like maybe a mix of tails and mint will be the zeitgeist. Anon market mixed in to the anon distro straight from the repo.

Which is why I like what Rokos is doing just Blackcoin is the only coin I like on it currently. Could be the correct direction for all of this though. I really like your PoL idea though and think you should run with it.

About the 3d-printed stuff, IoT devices which can self replicate based off network demand will be ideal but very far off. Replicating OS images with the prementioned builds including rotating mac and proxies built in should create enough of a cloud that true anon could be possible outside of the standard zero knowledge theories. DNS wouldnt even need to be involved outside of standard ISP node communication and that could be tackled through what MAID is developing it sounds like, even though all their demos still rely on standard fqdn resolution.

Fun talk

I like to think about this stuff.