Quote from: Keimling27 on May 10, 2016, 06:27:04 PM

Sorry for missunderstanding. Mayby they are liar but why.

Nobody will give nobody money for investment.

1 There are good bots for forex trading but they are not cheap.

2 you need money for buy the bot and start to trade.

There is a big risc thats true but their plan is working over 1 year and they pai out.

A Ponzi scheme will not work such a long time because you can not recruit faster members as payout the bitcoins to the members. This will work only a short time.

I will not make advertising for hashocean but i want to scrutinize the offer from hashocean.

Well I give you my case

here are endless discussions about which company is a ponzi and which one is a real miner.

This is my personal situation with HashOcean, tomorrow will be 1 year since "investment"

Invested   -0,25493000   11/05/2015
Payout    0,58930650
Profit    0,84754330   (Includes BTC used for new buys)
Net Result   0,3343765


Daily Average   0,002322036   Profit/DFI
Days from invest   365,00
Total Days to ROI   109,79   Invested/Average
Days Left to ROI   -144,00   Invested-payout/Average
Current Power   522 KHS


Average prod by KHS   0,00000719

Estimated daily by current   0,003753887

As you see I've have a good ROI with them, at the same time I've lost 0,50 in hashnest, now I'm recovering slowly using market to buy/sell GHS.
Also loose and earn some on other ponzi schemes and loose on Genesis mining
I did not recommend them neither said that they are serious, really I'm almost sure they are a ponzi.

But as I've said some times, cloud mining is not an investment, it's a lottery, if you pick the correct scammer at the correct time you may win, you will loose in all the other cases.
You will loose for sure with legit companies, so take it as gambling and consider these rules

1- If you want to contribute to BTC infrastructure build a node and run it by yourself, if you have free electricity, there are chances to have some profit, if not you will loose money, but contribute to the network security.
2- f you want to contribute to BTC infrastructure and don't want to build a node and run it by yourself, buy some hash on legit companies if that exist (there are chances that Genesis mining and hashnest are the only ones in these category) you will convert part of your money to BTC but less than buying it directly on the market without waiting.
3- If you just want to have some BTC, buying them on the market is the fastest and cheaper choice
4- If you like to gamble on ponzi schemes "invest" in them, sometimes you will loose (most of them) and sometimes you could win. but consider it as gambling not an investment.

5- Enjoy your life and BTC :-D