Quote from: dooglus on May 15, 2016, 10:53:56 PM

Quote from: Blacula X on May 14, 2016, 01:59:19 PM

Quote from: dooglus on May 14, 2016, 01:38:28 PM

Are you telling me that my idea is not mine because you had the same idea? That makes no sense.

No, I'm telling you that while I think it's pure coincidence that you had the same idea after reading theirs, you're just shit out of luck.

So even though you believe that we came up with the idea independently of each other, one person should be allowed to use the idea and the other shouldn't?

That really just makes no sense.

I could tell you that I was being sarcastic, that coming up with their idea after reading it is called "retention" and not "invention." I won't, I'll just say "they found it first, and got dibs on it." Just like they would have dibs on the dollar bill they found on the sidewalk, which you would have found if they didn't. It's theirs. To do with as they wish.

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Quote from: Blacula X on May 14, 2016, 01:59:19 PM

Just like you would be shit out of luck if you published Crime and Punishment (which you totally wrote on your own) a few years after Dostoyevsky published his.
Even though I totally believe you.

You appear to be confusing patents and copyright. They're quite different things. You can't independently write the same novel. If I tried to publish a copy of an existing work then clearly I have copied it.

Oh stop it. Of course I'm not confusing patents and copyright, I'm using whatcha m'call an analogy. Crime and Punishment is such an obvious novel that anyone could have written it. Especially after reading it. Much like you read the AsicBoost pdf.

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Quote from: Blacula X on May 14, 2016, 01:59:19 PM

But chillax, the patent hasn't been granted yet, merely submitted (pending). If AsicBoost is as self-evident as you claim, no patent will be granted

You have more faith in the patent system than I do.

It's imperfect, it's exploitable, but it's far better than nothing. Possibly due to the fact that inventors aren't a particularly powerful lobby, so the laws protecting their work are unlikely to be stacked in their favor.
As others have pointed out, this is all pointless rhetoric, since the Chinese (who'll most likely be making your next batch of silicon) don't particularly care about patent law & could release their next gen chips through some Belize corporation, perhaps with some catchy/original name, like AsicMiner.
So even if AsicBoost kids have the wherewithal to decap and conclusively prove, at gate level, that their patented methods are being used, good luck to them finding an entity to sue.