Quote from: smooth on May 18, 2016, 12:59:52 AM

Quote from: HONCHO on May 18, 2016, 12:49:29 AM

Quote from: smooth on May 18, 2016, 12:39:10 AM

Quote from: HONCHO on May 18, 2016, 12:36:12 AM

Quote from: smooth on May 18, 2016, 12:13:57 AM

Quote from: HONCHO on May 18, 2016, 12:12:00 AM

Could you maybe fathom the possibility that AnonyMint is so clever he found a paradigm to legally bypass the very regulations he had been researching.

I never claimed otherwise, though frankly I doubt this is possible. Most illegal investment schemes (now) involve some form of complex obfuscation and the law is designed to, and does, ignore form (i.e. paradigm) in favor of a view toward what is actually being accomplished. However, the abstract law and what is actually prosecuted are two different things, and different people may care more about one or the other. Participants have to make their own judgements.

Then should we dredge up AnonyMint's explanation of how Monero is potentially also an illegal unregistered investment security.

And that would be relevant to this thread how exactly?

See quoted underlined, bolded.

Again, I don't see the relevance of Monero.

The definition of obfuscation is you will not see.

Stop playing dumb please. You know what I meant. Decentralized proof-of-work distribution may be another obfuscation of the economic reality of an investment security.

That Monero is forcing hard forks on a periodic schedule clearly shows the developers are in control of its future which investors expectations are based on. I read in Monero Speculation that Monero investors are investing based on the expection of Shen-noether implementing Ring Confidential Signatures.

The obfuscation is actually quite weak.

"Holier than thou", as AnonyMint would write.

I'm done. You take the last word. Good luck.

Quote from: ArticMine on May 18, 2016, 01:03:17 AM

Please do, since he is dead wrong on this. By the way a better example would be Ethereum.

Done. You wrote earlier "IANAL". Please remember you are not a lawyer.