Quote from: Cuidler on May 21, 2016, 10:22:34 PM

Quote from: beastmodeBiscuitGravy on May 21, 2016, 09:57:14 PM

And I just helpfully demonstrated to you how the two are intimately and inextricably linked together.

You see just what you want to see. Jihan Wu might just mean no SegWit activation until fully ready and tested (in wallet as a feature to send coins using new SegWit transactions). It would make sence. And if no hard fork delivered as promised around July, miners can just merge BIP109 or some variation of this like with longer grace period + higher treshold as there is consensus between miners + market for this, so no big deal anyway.

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Quote from: beastmodeBiscuitGravy on May 21, 2016, 07:17:28 PM

Quote from: pawel7777 on May 21, 2016, 07:10:36 PM

Quote from: beastmodeBiscuitGravy on May 21, 2016, 07:04:10 PM

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There are rumors that miners will not activate segwit until Core has coded a HF blocksize increase for them... given Core's lack of desire to do this... it could be a VERY long time before anything happens. I would be shocked to see any additional capacity before the halving comes and goes.

Is there any source for this? Are you referring to P. Todd's tweet?

Peter Todd's AMA on the chinese forum.

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much of the hashing power has already said they're not going to run segwit until a hard-fork is released,

Maybe I'm just reading what Peter Todd wants to see? I guess it's possible.

Jihan's tweet was in reference to the word-play that Core and their PR team is now using, where "release" = "pull req".

Gregory Maxwell called Adam, Luke, Peter, BlueMatt all dipshits for even agreeing to a hard fork in July 2017, and you think it is easy peasy to get done... Well, I guess optimism can be good trait. Delusional optimism? not so much.

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