Quote from: nebuzen on May 25, 2016, 05:32:20 PM

Quote from: DannyHamilton on May 25, 2016, 04:52:16 PM

Quote from: nebuzen on May 25, 2016, 04:22:44 PM

Miners get commissions though, because they put in a lot of work to validate blocks and make sure the transactions added are legit.

Please don't make up nonsense answers to questions if you don't know what you're talking about.
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Sure, confuse him with your technical bullshit. I expressed what he needs to know in the simplest terms I could muster.

This thread was in the "Development & Technical Discussion" sub-forum when I replied to it. It has since been moved to the "Beginner & Help" sub-forum, but while in the Development & Technical Discussion sub-forum, a technical answer is entirely appropriate and not "bullshit".

Quote from: nebuzen on May 25, 2016, 05:32:20 PM

I agree saying miners get commissions could be misunderstood. It was probably a wrong way to put it. But I was talking about block-rewards etc. And yes, miners do both the things I mentioned. When I say work, I mean the computation power.

The large amount of computation power that a miner does has NOTHING to do with "validating blocks" or "making sure the transactions added are legit" (which are both the things you mentioned). All it does is form a consensus on transaction ordering.

Quote from: nebuzen on May 25, 2016, 05:32:20 PM

First you say I'm wrong:

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The miners do NOT "put in a lot of work to validate blocks", nor do they put in a lot of work to "make sure the transactions added are legit".

Then you say exactly what I said:

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validate a block and make sure the transactions added are legit

Lol.

Work on your reading comprehension.

You say that they "get commissions though, because they put in a lot of work to ...".

I say that they do not "put in a lot of work to ..." Then I point out that they put in the exact same amount of work as EVERY OTHER FULL NODE. You know, those nodes that relay transactions, but that don't do any mining. Those nodes that don't receive "commisions" or "transaction fees", or "block subsidies" or "block rewards", etc. The work to validate a block or make sure a transaction is legit is minimal and takes a few microseconds.

Clearly, I do not say exactly what you said.

Quote from: nebuzen on May 25, 2016, 05:32:20 PM

Be nice, and don't be too technical to newbies.

If a newbie is going to post in the "technical discussion" sub-forum, then the newbie should expect a technical answer. If they want a Beginner answer, then should post in the Beginner sub-forum.

Quote from: nebuzen on May 25, 2016, 05:32:20 PM

Because the question was asked to understand, not to get frustrated and give up or something.

Talking about commissions and claiming that the "work" that a miner gets paid to do involves validating blocks and making sure transactions are legit, doesn't help a newbie understand. It helps them mis-understand and results in them spreading that mis-understanding. Furthermore, it also does absolutely NOTHING to help the OP, who is asking about paying the owner of some intellectual property for the right to use that intellectual property. So, if your intent was to help, then you only created additional confusion by talking about "commissions" (which the OP was asking about in terms of paying for the right to use someone else's property) and claiming that the miners received them.