Quote from: Inaba on February 02, 2013, 12:26:26 AM

Quote from: Flying Hellfish on February 01, 2013, 11:12:39 PM

Quote from: Inaba on February 01, 2013, 10:41:58 PM

Quote from: Flying Hellfish on February 01, 2013, 01:54:24 PM

I am really hoping this is real. Grammar and spelling aside the jist of the post rings true for me. The way all ASIC vendors so far have forced the community to shoulder ALL the risk basically is unbelievable for a newb like me! Add to that the absolute trainwrek PR and customer service shown by the current players and I feel like this isn't the real world anymore but some wild west cowboy shoot out!

Hey man, I think you might have a viable lawsuit on your hands if you were forced to purchase something. Did they use a gun or a knife or something? Was your family being held hostage until you ordered? If you were forced into ordering something, it's under duress and you aren't liable for any contract you signed. You should definitely consult a lawyer, I think you have a case!

BTW - just out of curiosity, which vendor(s) forced you to order?

You sir are a real gem, one of a kind (I can only hope).

Are you often ignorant simply for the sake of being ignorant (I think yes!)

First of all LOL at lawsuits I am not even sure how you managed to get there from my post but ah OK cool!

Perhaps in its literal definition forced was not the perfect word. I guess me assuming that someone reading the post could get the "jist" of it without translating every word literally we're just slightly optimistic?

Would you prefer if I said something like The current ASIC vendors have decided to only accept full payment pre-orders thus shifting the burden of risk from themselves to the customer?

If you don't want people to take your inflammatory, false/misleading statements at face value, then say what you mean. You have never been forced to order from any ASIC vendor. You have always had the option to wait until the products were available for purchase and shipped to you. Your entire premise is flawed, in so far as the fact that if you pre-ordered, you chose to do so of your own free will. If the risk that you would be bearing is too much, then do not pre-order. There is absolutely zero requirement for you to do so, thus your statements are false. You may not like it, true, but you are free not to participate. Those that are willing to shoulder the risk and those that don't mind the situation will take your place... but there is nothing forcing you to participate at any level.

Yes, of course, attacking you... pointing out that your entire statement is false in a semi-humorous way is attacking you. You're the only troll here, sir.

Really, if you honestly believed from my post that I was implying that any vendor forcefully made anyone order or that anyone ordered not of their own free will you are more ignorant than I thought. I actually said "the community" that implies a group not an individual. All vendors decided to use full payment pre orders as the only method. You all knew the market was big enough that enough people would be willing to take any option given them, greed blinds after all. That's why you chose full payment pre-orders only, so don't come off with some high and mighty free will bull shit.

You seem to be good at diversion and sugar coating, to bad your comedy skills are so bad.