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Let me give a prediction. Heaviest dump of ICO history, way below the ICO price in the range of 1-3 cents for 1 wave.

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Quote from: ElitistCA on May 26, 2016, 07:28:15 PM

I think it will be dumped heavily on launch. This is period of ICO hysteria, when all forum members believe in magical rule of ICO returns. I do think it is good project and I trust team but I abslutly dont trust investors, half of them are just greedy sheeps hoping for fast profits. If there will not be some incentive to buy right after ICO ends, it will be dumped to ICO level. Longterm price is something else of course.

I just hope it won't get dumped way below ICO lvls. Its a very bad idea to release the coin right after the ICO!

Doesn't matter what you believe, the rules and dates were clear from the start. Deciding against your own dates is the worst you can do. Launching after the ICO and having a smooth launch (unlike LISK) is way better than hyping for 1 month after the ICO and having a terrible launch.

I'll quote this on in a few days.

Lisk is priced 5-7x times its ICO value. Even with a horrible start and unbelievable long delays.
Waves is going to be traded below the ICO price. Most likely at half of the ICO value.

You can quote whatever you want, prices aren't magically decided from the reasoning you give on what would be right or wrong, market makers decide the price, who back the projects, these markets are highly manipulated.

I just stated an obvious thing, sticking to your rules and dates is the best thing you can do on a project, it gives credibility.

Right, and for the "market makers" its easy to dump the coin extremely hard to buy it even cheaper.
So expect a lose of half of your BTC after the launch!

Do you even understand what the topic of this discussion was originally and what I responded to? Your response makes 0 sense.

This guy is trolling you.

Anyone who understands ICOs knows that Waves will not be dumped at launch. Lol. I invested in Lisk and Waves. Lisk had WAY more people looking for a quick dump. The average IQ of the average Lisk investor was one of the lowest I have ever seen in a crypto community, and that is saying alot.

Yup, he is either trolling or extremely stupid.

I'll quote myself later.

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Quote from: ATA Group on May 26, 2016, 07:01:41 PM

Guys are you drunk!?

Alright, the ICO ends and a lot of people want to cash out. But WHO DA FUCK wanna buy the coin right after the ICO!?
So guess what will happen with the price if even a small amount of people tries to cash out?!

Greetings

The big buys will come after a while, probably in summer when mainnet launches. Also lot of traders will miss the ico and when the uptrend happend big money jumps in.

Of course but not RIGHT after the ICO. So don't expect anything higher than your invested value in BTC right after the launch.

Quote from: ATA Group on May 26, 2016, 07:29:53 PM

There won't be a delay, as the makers of Waves want to deliver. They don't really care about the price of Waves as they've already received their BTCs.

@ATA Group,

If I understand you correct in the first quote above, you also think Waves tokens will gain a bullish price momentum, but not right after the ICO. On the other hand, you say the team don't care about the price of the tokens in the second quote above. As far as your argument goes, a plausible conclusion would be that the team don't care about the first-days price, not that the team don't care about the price. Those are two different things, and while you argue for the first one, you seem to be eager to conclude it with the second one.

Also, you seem to rely on reasonable fundamental principles while saying that people want to cash out. And it also seems reasonable that a delay may create an additional demand to cause an increase in the opening. However, your prediction that the price will fall to the half of the base cost sounds like a hasty conclusion, which escalates the argument quite quickly without any plausible effort.

Best,

Jian

Yes they don't care about the first day price as they don't even hold a lot waves. They are absolutely not interested in the opening price of waves. Ergo they are not interested in what most of the participants of the ICO want, fast money like LISK.

Yes its probably hasty to assume the price will fall down to half of the ICO price. But don't forget a lot of people are not experienced in trading and don't act reasonable. Moreover for a third of all participants the ICO price is 20% lower as they received a first day bonus. So its reasonable to assume that the price will fall below ICO.

Why?

Because there is not demand for waves as everyone who wanted some waves already bought them.

You can call that on ANY ICO and it doesn't seem to come true currently with the "new generation" crypto projects.

Also if any market-maker would decide to dump below ICO levels just to accumulate, he would hurt the credibility of the project and will generate bagholders who might dump on the slightest rise. Currently no new generation ICO dumped to half it's ICO price, but here you are predicting right this and you still don't see yourself as a troll.

Alright, lets close the price discussion and hope it want fall below ICO.

Are there any applications in Waves, where user can make some waves with?
Like the delegates in LISK?

Just shows how you didn't even read 2 lines, but you make unreal market predictions that aren't based on anything.