Quote from: smooth on May 27, 2016, 06:33:45 PM

Quote from: EmilioMann on May 27, 2016, 04:52:09 PM

Ok, ok, ok Vcash is a btc clone.

No one claimed it was a clone. The statement was that significant portions of its code (dozens at least) are copied from Bitcoin, refactored, and obfuscated, with attributions removed, to launch the coin on the basis of false claims of it having been written from scratch (both with the intent and actual effect of misleading investors). And also that EmilioMann, John Connor, & VanillaCoin/VCash are lying about Monero exploits.

Please to not respond to those specific scamming accusations by attempting to make a straw man argument about whether Vcash is or is not a "clone". We're not going to fall for that.

Quote from: bitcoin carpenter on May 27, 2016, 06:06:47 PM

I smell fear..

I smell bullshit. Actually I see it right on your post. The subject of this thread is the scamming actions by EmilioMann, John Connor, & VanillaCoin/VCash in lying about Monero exploits, and by extension other scamming actions by the same group such as ripping off Bitcoin's code and lying about it.

Fear, whether or not actually present, is irrelevant.

Try to stay on topic. If you can refute the allegations of false claims about Monero or refute the specific analysis and conclusions of copied code by gmaxwell, Luke-Jr, Rick Storm, and others (see links above) by providing similar credible third party analysis of the code base that reaches a different conclusion then please do so.

Quote from: ray88 on May 27, 2016, 05:40:27 PM

If the code was stolen as you say why hes not getting sued ?

You would have to ask the original authors of the portions of code that have been copied. No one has an obligation to take legal action including but not limited to lawsuits, though not doing so now doesn't mean it won't happen in the future, nor does it in any way prove that the code was not copied. Your logic is faulty.

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Same reason Monero is not getting sued by bitecoin creators.

No that is not the (only) reason. A clear reason in the case of Monero is that no code that was copied from Bitcoin has been identified in Monero (much less dozens such instances), so the situation is not the same at all.

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A lawsuit would require bitcoin and peercoin creators to be identified and interrogated.

No it wouldn't. Luke-jr has already explained how this actually works, and it isn't doesn't support your argument at all.

Quote from: Luke-Jr on January 14, 2015, 08:00:13 PM

Each individual contributor holds copyright to his contribution.
That means any of us can DMCA or sue for copyright infringement, and that someone who has infringed on the license needs to get permission from each and every one of us, before they can distribute/copy Bitcoin Core ever again (even unmodified).
(and yes, you're right that they will have a difficult time getting permission from Satoshi...)

Every month this goes by with no action (especoally after gmaxwell post a year ago makes this argument more likely to be pure bullshit