Quote from: LiQio on May 31, 2016, 09:11:40 AM

Quote from: altcoinUK on May 31, 2016, 09:00:36 AM

CIYAM is a good man. [...]

I had to stop here. Do your due diligence first, select your allies afterwards.

This is true. CIYAM collected money to implement AT on NXT and then implemented it on Qora instead. That isn't honest or fair behavior. Besides that, he defends the Chinese communists.

Quote from: altcoinUK on May 31, 2016, 09:00:36 AM

@DecentralizeEconomics
I understand you are trying to do the the right thing with NXT and you aren't happy with the directional changes of NXT, which takes the originally decent idea into a scam rout. The issue is, individuals with whom you have no problem like CfB and BCNext are very much part of the problem. BCNext's intention was OK with NXT. Originally the man wanted to create an alternative to BTC. Fine, it does make sense to progress and innovate. However, he turned into a lowlife scammer very quickly. Now BCNext is very much supporting the WAVES scam. BCNext is not as innocent as many would like to believe nor he is so mysterious. He is a lowlife Russian scammer.

I know you think CfB was BCNext, but I don't believe it. For one, BCNext was vehemently opposed to the Larimers' Bitshares scam and wrote numerous posts exposing it for the scam that it is. CfB on the other hand defended them and wanted cooperation between the NXT and Bitshares communities. Imo, there can be no cooperation with liars, cheaters, and thieves or those opposed to the original ideological movement. BCNext isn't "supporting the WAVES scam". BCNext hasn't posted since 2013. If you read the original NXT thread started by BCNext, it gives the impression to me that BCNext was located in the United States, but this is just my supposition. CfB seems like an "ok" guy except for the fact that I think he backstabbed those opposing the Larimers' scam, the original hardline NXTers, and his association with David Sonstebo. If CfB thinks he can produce ternary processors, sell them at a profit, and create a cryptocurrency network on top of it that is one thing, but having David as the CEO trying to convince the naive that IOTA will take over the world and be able to compete with the likes of Intel and IBM is another. David is extremely abrasive and an international communist. These aren't good traits for a businessman to possess. I'm all for small business, but IOTA doesn't stand a chance competing with these major hardware / software companies. David is running IOTA into the ground anyway, and I'm sure nothing good will come out of it. I think it was a big mistake on CfBs part to leave NXT to chase after this IOTA pipedream.

Quote from: iCEBREAKER on June 01, 2016, 02:02:55 AM

Quote from: CryptoSporidium on May 31, 2016, 06:54:12 AM

Quote from: DecentralizeEconomics on May 31, 2016, 05:27:04 AM

Imo, NXT needs to be relaunched back from the original genesis block and start fresh.

You seem to have access to the best weed on the forum, may I have some?

If you find a dev to support your plan I'm sure you'll have 73 eager supporters, but that's all

In before NXT 3.0 Instamine and NXT Classic ICO.... Tongue

The NXT "Classic" genesis block was formed in November 2013. NXT needs to be rebooted from this block with the original GUI client before all the superfluous additions were added. If someone wants to create their own client, they should be able to do so, but the original client should always remain compatible with other clients. There could be a voting mechanism to implement network-wide changes which would affect client compatibility. There should be absolutely no official developers, foundations, committees, or marketing teams. These are the people who centralized NXT. Anyone attempting to collect money for any such endeavour should be shunned. The original intent was for NXT to have many different, disjointed developers creating their own clients. This failed to materialize, I believe, because everyone relied on the "official devs". All these "improvements" to the client and "official" organizations resulted in a catastrophe for NXT as an ideological platform and the market price. NXT had its greatest success early on before these "official" organizations could materialize. After they came to be, they resulted in NXT's slow and steady destruction. NXT today isn't at all what BCNext intended. If the NXT network was rebooted from the genesis block, the original 73 individuals could resell or hold their NXT. The NXT would be extremely cheap like it was back in 2013, 1 million NXT for 1 BTC. Those who believed in the original premise could very easily get in and those who didn't could get out. The only thing I would like to see added to the original NXT program is I2P integration.