Quote from: franky1 on June 02, 2016, 01:33:00 PM

and why should Laudas opinion matter.
he doesnt know C++. and has never read a line of bitcoin code.

he loves core, he really loves blockstream and he thinks segwit is the perfect dream unicorn he had always wished for as a kid... just a shame that its not actually working as a bitcoin feature right now so all of them 'segwit is perfect' mantras are useless, because so far its not even part of bitcoin, and still in testing on its own altcoin.

even when it is implemented as part of bitcoin, it wont become active for many many more months. so dont expect any logical capacity increases any time soon.. only expect delays, excuses and fairy tale dreams of perfection.

What an asinine statement. There are a quite a number of individuals within the crypto ecosystem that contributes a tremendous amount without knowing C++ or core. I personally have not done any coding in years and couldnt right now even if you asked, but that doesnt stop me from contributing.

Quote from: Useli Violent on June 02, 2016, 07:02:34 PM

Roger Ver is "Bitcoin Jesus"!
Everyone knows that.

https://www.google.com/#q=roger+ver+bitcoin+jesus

I've always personally loathed this apparent self given title. My only comment about Rodger since this thread is about him is that yes he may have done some good in the past, but his personality and actions speak as an opportunist (which in today's age is 90% of crypto users it seems). He's in it mainly for himself, and investments are really about ROI.

Quote from: johnyj on June 03, 2016, 12:17:45 PM

Because Roger Ver is among those a few people that really understand bitcoin's potential. Programmers seldom look away from their technical worries, they care about how the car works, but are not able to see where the car is going

The blocksize debate is not a technical issue, it exposed several long existing problem of bitcoin: Mining centralization, development centralization and lack of consensus based decision making mechanism regarding protocol change. And what core programmer is doing is to make these problems worse, their solutions create more and more centralization incentive, especially in R&D. If bitcoin is centralized in the hands of a few guys, government and law enforcement will take down them in a couple of hours, then the whole system will just collapse like e-gold or liberty reserve

You just said its not a technical issue, then proceeded to list a number of technical issues (along with socioeconomic issues). It is in fact a technical issue, but its crosses multiple disciplines in science and engineering in order to resolve. Honestly the discipline that is best equipped to come up with a solution (or at least point it in the right direction) would be a systems engineer.

I dont disagree with your last statement.....well entirely at least. The only thing I would add is that regardless of what people may say there needs to be some level of centralization to guide people in order for the system to work effectively. Otherwise there would mass chaos with millions of crypto users using multiple version of Bitcoin core, each one syncing up with their own blockchain.