Quote from: CIYAM on June 04, 2016, 11:26:18 AM

Quote from: smaragda on June 04, 2016, 09:43:32 AM

Shame on you, CIYAM!!! How dare you not do something you had ABSOLUTELY NO FUCKIN' CONTROL over?!?!? Roll Eyes

Exactly - he should be speaking to Jean-Luc about why AT was never added to Nxt (as it could easily have been).

My guess is that he is a NXT bag-holder (so in fact his real issues should be with CfB and the like but I am guessing he is now an IOTA bag-holder as well so he doesn't dare have a go at them).

Wrong. Like RTRT pointed out, I've been highly critical of David and didn't invest a cent into IOTA, because I think it is a poor business premise and that David doesn't have the business skills to pull it off. I'm also upset with Jean-Luc, the NXT devs, the NXT Foundation, committees, and marketing team.

Quote from: CIYAM on June 04, 2016, 11:26:18 AM

This idiot makes a donation and then claims there are all these conditions about his donation being returned - but where are those conditions in writing?
(and also the idiot can't even show any evidence that he even made such a donation - just claims that I should remember whilst at the same time he appears to back statements by others that I am so intoxicated every day that it wouldn't even be possible for me to remember any such thing)

@DecentralizedEconomics - grow up child - if you "donate" then you don't ask for a refund (am guessing you are the kind of person that asks a charity for a refund if you're not happy with what happens 2 years later also).

Also - if we "failed to deliver" then how on earth does Burst and Qora have AT?
(as I have repeatedly pointed out Nxt could simply have used the code that was used in Burst)

Perhaps you are simply too young to understand what is and what isn't a scam (maybe someone else can educate you because I know that I can't be bothered with you any more).

What type of unscrupulous individual collects money (donations or not) under one pretense, fails to deliver upon that pretense, and keeps the money. Your right, if I gave money to charity under the assumption that it would be used for a certain project and they took the money and spent it on something else, I'd sue them. It's too bad that you have to fall back on "show me the signed contract" and people can't take you for your word. Again, I don't care about implementation on Burst or Qora. Both of those are failed projects and PoC is a joke. I honestly didn't expect for you to refund my money, because I've heard from numerous people what type of a person you are and you just proved their point.

Quote from: iotatoken on June 04, 2016, 01:37:58 PM

RTRTCRYPTO:

I have offered you a refund here in public and also in PM. If you honestly think IOTA is a failed project (like you just proclaimed) you will accept the refund, you will get back your tokens and the IOTA goes to someone that actually has a use for it, not a speculator.

If you just want to continue whining about something you have no idea of, go ahead, I will not pay attention.

You know David, you ought to be thanking RTRT for trying to help you. He's giving you some good advice, and you'd be smart to take it. While I don't agree with you on a lot of things, I think it would be unfortunate for you to drive this business, even though I don't think it has a high probability of success, and everyones' investment into the ground. I don't know how one minute you can claim you are successful, because you've returned XX% ROI, and the next minute lambaste people for being speculators. It seems you honestly believe that your investors are your enemy and that businesses don't need investors. That conviction means that IOTA is already dead regardless of anything else. You'd do yourself a world of good by not being so antagonistic to everyone, mainly your investors, and try to act like a real businessman who is looking out for everyone's best interests.