Quote from: gmaxwell on June 06, 2016, 05:10:48 PM

Quote from: franky1 on June 06, 2016, 12:54:40 PM

Quote from: Lauda on June 06, 2016, 12:39:57 PM

Correct. While I might have wrongly used 'average' instead of median somewhere (I don't recall all of the times that I've written about this), Maxwell never did.

but gmaxwel has

Quote from: gmaxwell on May 28, 2016, 09:20:34 PM

Quote from: franky1 on May 28, 2016, 09:08:14 PM

median transaction size of 226byte??
i think u meant minimum not median

That is the median size.

again the 226byte is MINIMUM.. not median, not average.. the median is about 500.. the average is similar
median means middle number. and is usually close to an average, well atleast in the same ball park.. its definetly not the minimum or the maximum.. but the amount between the two..

No. 226 is actually the _median_ transaction size.

In [46]: pp = AuthServiceProxy("http://bitcoinrpc:password@127.0.0.1:8332") In [47]: txa=[pp.getrawtransaction(x,1) for x in pp.getblock(pp.getblockhash(415093),True)['tx'][1:]] In [48]: sum([x['size'] for x in txa]) Out[48]: 999724 In [49]: numpy.median([x['size'] for x in txa]) Out[49]: 226.0

Same story for pretty much every block.

(Minimum is 189 in that block FWIW).

Franky1, in this case you were just confused-- but you've got a number of other claims like saying CT is part of core's published roadmap, that are outright lies. I think you need to stop wasting everyone's time.

226 is the median transaction size.

I'm not surprised the confusion here.
There are no big outright lies here, just confusion (of official and officially implied?)
Franky is not wasting my time.
If clear answers as above were more commonplace...

I don't see blocks with 4000+ transactions as the median 226 would imply.
Is the mean transaction size very similar to the median do you know?

segwit will have little to no effect on Block space for some fairly considerable time after any soft fork, and that soft fork will likely take some fairly considerable time from now. Segwit release/adoption/bugs are all of an unpredictable nature.

Are we all supposed to wait as long as segwit takes to make a difference. (which will be ages or never)
Is bitcoin adoption on hold from now till then?
Or is this your idea of a fee market?

segwit maybe for the future, when it is needed, (or not) and properly tested.
segwit is not needed today. It has just been sold that way by core. Obviously.