Quote from: BurtW on June 11, 2016, 11:43:06 PM

Quote from: SomaliRebel on June 11, 2016, 09:52:01 PM

Quote from: BurtW on June 11, 2016, 09:43:01 PM

Quote from: SomaliRebel on June 11, 2016, 09:21:55 PM

Quote from: BurtW on June 11, 2016, 08:58:27 PM

So, someone must risk going to jail and total financial ruin in front of a jury in order to impress you? Have you personally had to face five years in prison on a coin flip? Even if you have and even if you did take it to trail so what? My wife and I did struggle with the whole thing over many months. We went back and forth on it. Sometimes thinking we should get our day in court to prove beyond doubt that they were wrong and risk five the years in prison. You can sit there behind you keyboard in your easy chair anonymously spouting your shit but your opinion simply does not matter.

Let's hear your story of bravery and bravado "proved my innocence at all cost" against a similar situation.

Can't regale you with tales of my daring-do, always having thanked my lucky stars for plea deals. At the time, a public defender was all I could afford.
On the other hand, I never trotted out my family to help me beg on the internet to cover my legal expenses, and never plead out when I was 100% innocent.
Should I bother mentioning that I never told sob stories about the US legal system failing me, after opting out of a jury trial & having agreed to a deal?

So you have never face a situation even remotely similar to mine. Fair enough.

What part of "I have, but handled it differently" didn't come across?

I see. I misunderstood you. So, you used a public defender in a complex Federal felony case? I assumed the charges were for DUI or something like that - my bad. At any rate anyone who would use a public defender in a Federal felony case is much braver than I am. I don't have the stones to trust my life to someone who basically works for the prosecution and can't be truly adversarial on my behalf without risking all future deals with the prosecution.

My hat's off to you o brave one. You showed me.

You are also, obviously, more principled than me due to your hard stance on never pleading or dealing when you were totally innocent. I love your "I am innocent and willing to pay whatever it takes to prove it" stance. Good for you.

I tip my hat to you o principled one. You showed me.

You forgot to mention that we also trotted out our dog on one of our begging pages. She is very upset you left out her contribution to the cause. See her cute picture here:

http://www.jmwagner.com/

>So, you used a public defender in a complex Federal felony case?
Not a federal case, your dick is clearly girthier than mine, OG. Though time is time.

>I assumed the charges were for DUI or something like that
No, nothing like that.

>At any rate anyone who would use a public defender in a Federal felony case is much braver than I am.
Which part of "I couldn't afford a real attorney & wasn't willing to trot out my family to beg for money" have I failed to communicate?

>I don't have the stones to trust my life to someone who basically works for the prosecution
In case still unclear, poor != brave; poor people on trial for murder with nothing but a public defender aren't brave, or even necessarily stupid. They're fucking poor. Asshole.