Quote from: smooth on June 16, 2016, 02:46:44 AM

Quote from: iamnotback on June 16, 2016, 01:25:08 AM

Quote from: smooth on June 15, 2016, 11:45:38 PM

I haven't read 100% of the posts on this thread (mostly just the first page) so I may have missed something. But the main question seems to be whether I endorse their launch strategy or anything else about it. The answer is mostly no, I just mined it, as a few said earlier in the thread.

The only thing I would endorse is that the web site itself doesn't seem half bad. It is a lot like reddit without the uncontrolled sock puppets. There have been some good crypto posts and discussion on there, and I was planning to mirror major Monero announcements on there so people could have another place to discuss if desired (but there haven't been any major Monero announcements recently so I haven't yet don't that)

If people want to try that (usually for free either by my bitcointalk account offer or their facebook/reddit offers), I see no harm in it. Does not require you to buy anything at all.

1. I am curious how you can offer Streemit accounts to Bitcointalk users? Do you have some special affiliation with Steem that enables you to do that?

No I don't. Anyone who has the cli wallet can create an account using the create_account command. It costs 10 coins (about $3) but as long as I don't get Sybil attacked that cost is not a concern for me at all. It is also possible for anyone to mine accounts without paying any coins, which I have also done for various people I know (from forum or otherwise). Those accounts are turned over for free if and when they want them.

Both mining and using the cli wallet/node requires a degree of technical skills (I think you have to compile it yourself, although it is possible there are Windows binaries somewhere), but once you have an account on the blockchain you can use the web site.

Oh thanks for explaining that. So due to my ignorance of their API, I had the wrong initial assumption. Thanks for correcting me.

Quote from: smooth on June 16, 2016, 02:46:44 AM

Quote from: iamnotback on June 16, 2016, 01:25:08 AM

And I am wondering why you are doing that promotion for them? Is that so you can improve the liquidity of the coin so you can sell? I mean you are promoting a stealth mined coin which seems to go against your highly public ethics against non-fair mining. Normally I wouldn't care at all what you do or why, but it is just because of your desire to use the bully-pulpit.

Because I think it is a useful site, and maybe it helps my personal reputation a bit to help people out (I got one or two positive trusts from it, though I never asked for any). Getting a free account from the site directly requires linking it to your Facebook account, which a lot of crypto people don't like or may not even have.

No I don't think it will improve liquidity. It would take far more than that (probably impossible).

Ah I see it is only the personal reputation motivation. I should have realized that, but the likely reason I didn't it because I think as you can observe that I don't place a very high value on status, as I abandoned my Hero account (which would have been Legendary by now) and a couple of Senior level accounts also.

Some people like to aspire to titles such as President of the Student Council, or other forms of recognized social status, especially when these are empowering, such as how on this forum having reputation allows one to muck with reputation of others.

I personally detest those structures and have always avoided them since even high school.

The only titles I ever valued were the ones of accomplishment. For example, my past sporting and software venture achievements. The only reputation I want is one of being someone who created something great. I don't want political clout. And I don't want to use political clout.

So that is a fundamental difference between us that will be difficult to reconcile, which explains why I got upset with your moderation of the Monero thread and deleting my defenses against those who berated me there. Albeit you were always trying to balance the politics and you tried to retain my comments quoted into tiny font. I just reject the entire community concept of a leader censor managing a lot of underlings. I prefer a flat structure of competing achievers. The defacto leader is the one who achieves the most.

I hate meta noise. I want a flat lean, self healing structure.

Quote from: smooth on June 16, 2016, 02:46:44 AM

Quote from: iamnotback on June 16, 2016, 01:25:08 AM

3. Lastly I have no qualms about you not endorsing something meaning you think it might fail technically, marketing, or business wise. But if you mean that your reputation should matter when endorsing ethics of distribution schemes, then I want to inform you that I no longer support you in that. And in fact, I might become quite a thorn to those who continue to berate others about Right and Wrong, as if God appointed you to do that.

OK, I mean when I'm busy with something else I barely comment. In fact I wouldn't even be writing this (or seen the thread) except that I was asked out-of-band by someone about it.

I have no problem with criticizing things I think are done poorly for whatever reason, and that includes Steem (as I just did in this thread, or maybe it was the other one).

If you think that community self-regulation is inappropriate when there is no other effective authority doing any regulation of abuses and scams, then we disagree. We also disagree on what it means to let things be wild and free, because pretty much all wild and free systems generally include some form of community self-regulation.

Yeah I am against the concept of community self-regulation. I prefer no regulation.

We'll agree to disagee and I won't pesker you about it any more. I'll just ignore it when I see it.

Again sorry for shifting sands of my attitude.

What you seeing now is the real me. I was trying to be someone I wasn't, I guess to appease others.

Sorry I am really a minanarchist at heart, bordering on full anarchist.

I don't know if because I was so sick, perhaps I lost my internal compass due to the semiconscious state (delirium) of fighting with my CFS. But my internal compass throughout my life, has always been non-interventionalist. Perhaps I was also driven by fear (debilitating health can break any person) and financial desperation which caused me to perhaps lose the confidence in myself that I need to not compromise my ethics of anarchism (i.e. feeling I was helpless and needed to rely on others and my reputation for their approval)