Quote from: smooth on June 17, 2016, 02:11:06 AM

Quote from: iamnotback on June 17, 2016, 01:47:18 AM

Yeah I suppose Monero still has some 1000s of users because Zcash isn't released yet. But the clock is ticking on that plus as other coins moves towards 100 millions of user adoption

There are no coins making any real moves to 100 millions of user adoption with the possible exception of Bitcoin perhaps slowly very, very doing so. But this was a discussion of altcoins, which makes Bitcoin irrelevant.

Leave that kind of hyperbole to the pumpers. You're not very good at that game (no insult).

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I am not trying to be extra callous, but I am just so tired of hearing how Mundanero will still be going 20 years from now.

It may, it may not. I'm on record saying many times that it will probably fail and become worthless. Of all the coins around, it is in a small group that has the best chance to be around in 20 years (Bitcoin obviously far eclipses all the rest, and not only because of its size)

Present performance and events are not necessarily an indication of future performance. The DAO came out of no where to $168 million.

Please don't tell me you are omniscient. You have no idea what I am doing for example, unless you planted a virus on my computer.

And don't underestimate my ability to pump. I will only pump what I believe in, which means it has to actually be technically sound.

I am not saying I will be the one. Again Steem also has some of the right ingredients. They need some of my ingredients. If the two could be put together, that would very much increase the odds. But the problem is all the vested interests and personalities, etc.. Sometimes it is more efficient to just code yourself than to go talk with others.

Quote from: smooth on June 17, 2016, 02:11:06 AM

Quote from: iamnotback on June 17, 2016, 01:47:18 AM

Hey I need a popular coin now! If Monero can't do it, then someone else will.

Maybe. It could be that the mass market just doesn't want it. One of the merits of a slow and steady approach is that the mass market may wants something in the future that it doesn't want now.

The mass market is ready but we haven't tapped it yet. That is specifically what I could really help Steem on. I already have the design. I am just trying to implement. It took them years to build up their code stack. I am starting from scratch.

Quote from: smooth on June 17, 2016, 02:11:06 AM

Quote from: iamnotback on June 17, 2016, 01:47:18 AM

Btw I agree that there haven't been really serious achievements from altcoins. Ethereum is an unfinished and highly unpolished work, that doesn't yet have a killer app. The DAO is an unmitigated disaster in the making. And Dash is of course Dashtardly.

Steem appears to have good coders. If they had only consulted with me to get the marketing design right and the debasement design right. I am quite tempted to find out who their best coders are and try to approach them, but I've watched Dan so many times botch things, that I am wary.

IMO the Bitshares ecosystem (including Steem) has the best coders and not just Dan, at least if you want to stick with C++ or don't care about PL. Also the best quality code stack. Bitcoin has very good coders, but I'm assuming you are only speaking of alts. Monero had one excellent C++ coder but he unfortunately passed away, along with several competent ones. I'm unsure about Ethereum; apparently Gavin was a good coder (speaking on second-hand reports, not my personal assessment). Vitalik is hardly a coder at all. I don't know about the others. But as you say coding ability is not the only thing that matters. There are many other ways to mess things up, and other ways to add value.

Who passed away amongst Monero core devs? You had a dev older than me?

Yeah most people think Vitalik is so awesome but I see he butchered the DAO concept. And he doesn't code and debug.

Steemit has a lot of JS I assume at least on the client side? Are they writing the server side of Steemit in C++?

I prefer to move away from C++ if I can. I can code rudimentary C++ but I quit C++ in 2001 before all the bells and whistles that have been added hence including STL, etc.. Of course I can readily pick up all that because I am polyglot, but I prefer not to use C++.