Quote from: lovely89 on June 30, 2016, 08:11:22 PM

Quote from: whatisbitcoin2016 on June 30, 2016, 05:09:59 PM

Quote from: lovely89 on June 30, 2016, 04:39:37 PM

Quote from: whatisbitcoin2016 on June 30, 2016, 03:45:12 PM

Yes and also this is crypto. We measure in BTC around here, not stinky fiat. Additionaly, it is not honest to flip between BTC and USD to make the disparity appear larger. Use one reference point or the other. Proper measure is 0.047 ICO and 0.6 now = 12.75x

Besides, CK's all but likely a scammer at this point. Using his "sales" prices for these conclusions are meaningless as they do not reflect the real market. They are artificialluy low so he can grift investors more easily.

So at what point do we convert btc to USD from 1 bitcoin being worth $0.01 to it now being $650? Or is the pizza sold back in 2011 still worth 20000 btc to you? (I forgot the exact details). Value is value.

My pointsc
1. Iota has no ongoing development team as of right now.
2. Anyone here could be a scammer. Anyone.

Well we had better track USD value vs other world currencies into the equation. Please ask everybody what currency they bought with and what it's value vs USD is now vs when they invested. Also we will need to know what the price of BTC was when they originally bought it so we can clculate their cost basis into our equation. Where does it end? The point is you pick one reference and stick with it.

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1. Iota has no ongoing development team as of right now.

Please show me a source where this is stated as absolute as you portray it to be. I would also like you to explain why the foundation is collecting 5% of all IOTA if there is to be no long term development. Of course they will continue to support their project and many others will join as things progress. You are just doom and glooming with no basis.

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2. Anyone here could be a scammer. Anyone.

Friend, anyone in the world can be a scammer. Act accordingly. The difference is only very few people in this circumstance have handed out IOU's without escrow and that is what we are talking about.

Regarding foundation. All account claiming has been happening this past week and it will be far above 50%.

1. World reserve currency vs highly volatile bitcoin. Even the USD adjusts for inflation over years.

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Quote from: iotatoken on June 06, 2016, 12:25:16 PM

.... Keep in mind that we - the company - didn't allocate a single iota for ourselves, precisely to avoid people thinking that we were somehow obligated to do any work beyond our sales agreement of developing and delivering software to our customers.

We have proposed a foundation, and it's up to the community by 100% choice to participate or not....

3. There are many not using escrow. I'm against singling people out.

4. It's impossible to say until the tangle confirms it.

1. Friend, China, russia and handfuls of other countries would like to talk to you about this alleged "USD world reserve currency" statement... Not sure what you are trying to get at regarding your inflation statement. Seems unrelated and out of place.

2. That quote does in no way support your absolute statement that there is no long term development team.

3. No. You don't single people out. You just spread a blanket of FUD, which is worse.

4. Exactly. All of your statements are predicated on the assumption that the foundation will not be funded. So you are making baseless speculations.