Quote from: Vod on July 10, 2016, 04:22:32 PM

Quote from: Lauda on July 10, 2016, 07:16:34 AM

Quote from: Vod on July 10, 2016, 01:27:47 AM

Another personal attack against Lauda.

This has become a daily routine now. Embarrassed

I wouldn't worry too much about it. It's more than obvious these anti-Lauda threads are started by Quickseller alts. No one respects that scammer.

Do a little more research please. I am not quickseller.

This thread was an attempt to bring attention to what I consider a major issue that many don't seem to take seriously. Seriously though, ask around anyone active in the gambling forum, I'm not Quickseller and my posts are not influenced by his agenda in any way.

Quote from: actmyname on July 10, 2016, 04:28:52 PM

Although the only explicit issue you can find about Betcoin is the Betsoft situation, research is still a necessity especially since TwitchySeal has laid out all of it on a thread. Doesn't the jasonort problem at least raise any alarms as to the fact that there might be something else going on? Even though he got his "settlement" (which is definitely a fraction of what he should have gotten) the entire situation started off with Betcoin's ignorance, which has happened on many occasions.

The progressive Jackpot is only the most recent explicit issue, it is NOT the ONLY issue and, in my opinion it's not the biggest.

There are many others. So many I honestly don't even know where to begin. Most of them involve what is likely an honest mistake made by Betcoin handled in an extremely unethical way.

Please, read this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1322261.0

The reason Betcoin appears as if these issues don't exist is because of the 50+ signature campaign members some of them are very happy to be members of one of the highest paying campaigns. When they defend Betcoin against "trolls" like me, Betcoin pays them bonuses. When users are "spamming" their thread with legitimate questions, campaign members provide someone else to respond to.

To be clear, this type of behavior is not something all campaign members participate in and I'm not accusing Lauda of being one of them. However, any reputable member of the forum who joins the campaign makes the entire campaign more reputable.

Here is one example of how Betcoin addresses issues, read the post and then the following few responses:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=386266.msg14470101#msg14470101

They never responded to dooglus, by the way.

The issue he was asking about involved a glitch that caused too much rake to be taken from Nov 1 - Mid December. (in cash games, they take a fee out of every pot based on the size of the pot and a few other factors)

A player reported the issue the first week of Nov, betcoin ignored it for over a month and continued to advertise a rake structure that wasn't being followed.

In December, they announced a rake increase and denied the issue happened.

From December - March they ignored the issue. Me and a few other members posted about it nearly daily, along with signature camp members that didn't seem to know much about Betcoin other than "great promos and fast cashouts!"

In March, they had their "Betcoin to return overcharged rake" promo which made a lot of players happy but was not an appropriate way to handle the situation. I am still confident that there are players who were overcharged 10+BTC and didn't notice. The only way one would notice is if they own tracking software and understand how to use it.

Quote from: Lauda on July 10, 2016, 07:36:06 AM

Quote from: Joel_Jantsen on July 10, 2016, 07:31:42 AM

Not trying to offend you or something but if it is any other member on the forum due to any causes either a scam accusation is opened or found promoting something which is liable to steal money from users indirectly,DT members without even looking into the matter ,give a negative reputation temporarily which could be resolved later .Doesn't the same rules apply to you as well?

Understood. It would be only natural, according to what you're saying, that the service in question received those ratings first IMO. So mind telling my for what reason am I singled out here, out of so many members (there's at least 1 DT member wearing their signature) and Betcoin itself? After a certain amount of time and accounts it becomes obvious to one.

Quote from: Joel_Jantsen on July 10, 2016, 07:31:42 AM

I don't think you should be given special privileges,the DT members should apply the same rules to everybody.Just my two satoshis.

I'm not and I haven't done anything wrong either. What you're saying would only be fair in case that every single participant receives that negative rating.

I'm not saying anyone should just snap neg rep anyone.

I'm saying we have a serious issue here. It's become acceptable to help a site become trusted without taking any consideration into whether or not they should actually be trusted.

When I see a staff member do it, I see an obvious and legitimate response for every member who may be asked "hey, why are you promoting that site?"

Lauda, why won't you remove your signature until you have done your due diligence?

If the money is so important, you should consider the research equally important.

If it's not about the money, just remove it until you have time to educate yourself on the situation.

Otherwise you're not just promoting Betcoin.ag, you're also promoting ignorance.