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The basic theme of the Bible is salvation of the mortal soul. Science doesn't even have a clue that the soul exists. Other religions barely have the idea of salvation.

Science has the biggest holes of all.

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The big difference is that bible holes stay holes forever. Science holes get filled in, albeit slowly.

Sometimes science unplugs a "placeholder" bible misplugged hole and puts is own plug in as correct replacement. For example when the young 6000 year old earth plug was replace with the correct 4.5 billion year old earth plug.

Thank God for science. (Not the bible god of course, who gets things wrong.)

Actually, it's the other way around. Science continually proves out the Bible when it touches on something that the Bible says.

The idea of a 13 billion old universe is a fictional thing that the science religion has dredged up. The 6,200 year old universe is historical record, recorded in the Bible.

Science keeps on trying to prove evolution. But all they have done so far is to prove that evolution doesn't exist. When they say it does, they prove that they are liars, or deceptive at best.

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Nope, as explain in a previous thread, science cannot prove anything about anything. That's not how it works.
So your claim that science is trying to prove evolution is false. Not sure if you just don't understand science or being deliberately deceptive.

Now you are simply playing on words. However, if what you say is true, it gives the Bible eye witness record more credibility.

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I dont get all these argument's about religion here.
Bible is a book.
Books dont get written by a god's,they get written by humans.
So why do we think,that there is someone in the skies,who rules the whole universe? because some book actually tells us that?
Makes no sense to me,but well,im an atheist.

Makes absolute sense. Here's how.

Everything operates by cause and effect, which is upheld by Newton's 3rd Law. This means that everything has been programmed to operate the way it does. This means that when the Programmer, God, programmed the Bible to be written, He also programmed what the people who wrote it actually put into it. So, essentially, the Bible was written by God.

After all, try to show us something that happens spontaneously - anything - without something causing it to happen. There isn't anything. God programmed it all.

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Did he program in all the bible flaws and contradictions as well?

How many times are you going to ask this? No! He gave free will, and we programmed our own flaws in, by accepting what the devil had to say.

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Please, for your own sake, don't dig yourself into the infamous "free will" hole again. It's binary, either we have free will or we don't. You can't cherrypick.

Quote from: BADecker on August 26, 2015, 06:00:33 PM

We don't even have free will.

You only want to avoid the free will thing because you don't have a way to refute what I say.

God is the cause behind every cause and effect action.
There are no actions in the universe other than cause and effect actions.
God holds open a little piece of part-free will in mankind, and then causes all things to act based on His desires and mankind's little piece of semi-free will.
God gives freedom to all in this way.
The devil used his freedom to attempt to thwart God.
Mankind listened to the devil.
God is working on correcting everything:
1. In allowing freedom to remain, but under His control;
2. In letting His desires be fulfilled at the same time mankind get their way;
3. He does it by giving us time here to decide for all eternity if we will be for Him or against Him;
4. Then He will destroy this universe and replace it with a far better one;
5. Those people who are on His side will go to the new universe;
6. The people who are against Him will be destroyed with this universe;
7. He works salvation through His Son, Jesus.

Your only answer to all this is that I must be mad. But you know this stuff that I say is all true. Stop setting yourself against God, before you go down in the destruction.

You fate is sealed for all time once you die, because you cannot change anything in your mind after you are dead.

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