Quote from: bitpop on July 21, 2016, 11:16:41 AM

Quote from: roselee on July 21, 2016, 11:15:53 AM

Quote from: bitpop on July 21, 2016, 11:09:29 AM

Vitalik, I'm asking you to lock this thread and start a new thread for ethf.

Also I'd like to quote this

Quote from: theymos on July 21, 2016, 10:17:46 AM

I don't follow altcoins at all, but it seems to me that Ethereum's main problem here was that its economy wasn't backed by very many full nodes at all. See:
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Full_node#Economic_strength
https://bitcoin.org/en/bitcoin-core/features/validation

I'd guess that 99% of ETH owners were using EWallets. This is extremely dangerous, since it gives those EWallets massive control over the network. This is exactly the sort of centralization risk that Bitcoin experts are constantly warning about in relation to the max block size. It is absolutely essential that the economy be backed by many independent full nodes so that miners + a small handful of "major players" can't completely change the currency.

I believe 99% of ethf users were in it for the pump and dump. None had an intent to run nodes, create an economy, build contracts, nothing.

Vitalik has set a precedent. If there's ever child porn, drugs, gambling, etc. The fbi can come straight to his house and he has 0 deniability. He'll be in jail for contempt.

yes vitalik be so fair
the hf overrun normal ether holders in favor of investors how did get there bailout. but it would be fair to close this thread couse its not the old ether classic one anymore .
let both sides start a new thread. at least that would be fair.

I'm no longer asking for this thread, only for closure. Op was selling immutable tokens which no longer exist. Keeping this thread is deceitful.

Yawns ...

You wont succeed with this.
Now scurry off to your own thread with your 4 friends.