Quote from: MoneypakTrader.com on February 28, 2013, 04:05:52 PM

Quote from: TradeFortress on February 28, 2013, 09:08:21 AM

Still no acceptance of legally binding arbitration from MoneyPakTrader.com. Judge.me accepts bitcoin, and I'd like to go with that to increase use of the currency.

I've already addressed this issue a couple posts above.
Also, in response to why don't I let TF finish the site:
The reason I don't let him finish is because his work is horrible and after I repeatedly reported the problems in his finished product and being given another "finished product" by him that didn't work up to the specs, I have no obligation to let him string me on any more while delivering shoddy work.
I encourage other users to try TF coding and judge for themselves rather than trusting the 3 people who are unsatisfied with his work.

Quote from: MoneypakTrader.com on February 28, 2013, 01:53:08 AM

I see he now offered to pay the $300 fee to use judge.me after you made this comment about resolution. This seems strange as I offered to let him out of the contract for 12 BTC (out of the 27 I paid). I am willing to arbitrate.

Quote from: TradeFortress on February 28, 2013, 12:01:15 AM

I am offering to pay for legally binding arbitration. [...] I suggest judge.me.[...]

I accept your offer and choice (judge.me). Since you're paying the cost ($300).
It seems that unless I accept, I would definitely lose all 27BTC.
I am reluctant to use this service when there are no published cases, but it seems I have no other viable option for recovering my loss.

Assuming TF pays for arbitration to decide how much of a refund he owes me, that would be great. I encourage other coders to assist in reviewing TF's finished site he gave me and judge for themselves if it is a finished product.
I shouldn't need to go through every basic aspect of the site and tell him how it doesn't work, that's what I was doing with TF. Finally when the Bitcoin deposit system (an integral part of the site which was the first thing I asked him to do for the site) was non-functional after TF attempted to deliver a working bitcoin deposit system for the 10th time or so, I demonstrated it didn't work and posted the evidence (in the other forum thread).

As TF drags this out, it becomes obvious he is using my coins to "go long" as he says with BTC intending to keep the profit of any price increases.
TF, if you're not going to reimburse the 16 BTC I'm paying to finish the job you said was done (only 12BTC after giving you the craptastic programmer discount), my settlement offer will be revoked 24hrs from this post. I am holding you responsible for theft of 27 BTC through fraud/scam through misrepresentation of services. Your coding is not worthy of being sold. You can send your "finished product" of my site to any competent programmer and they will say the same thing. You could continue to finish the site you repeatedly said was already finished and it would still be craptastic and unacceptable on the most cursory review. I contracted for TF to set up the site on my server, so complaining about the server is non-excusable.
After it became obvious TF was incapable of delivering a usable product that wasn't buggy (when he delivered a "final product" to me for about the 10th time which was full of bugs), I was obligated to stop trusting him with my website. Any rational business owner would have done the same (probably a lot sooner). My mistake was trusting him when there were obvious signs of his coding incompetence from the start. He pretended to know how to do everything I wanted from the start and then after I give him coins, he blamed the site/server and everything except his own incompetence for his inability to do what he promised. Now he blames me, like I sabotaged his masterpiece so that I could pay someone else to fix it. It makes no sense, if he gave me a complete product worth paying for I wouldn't need to hire someone else to do the job. . .

As most clients looking for website development, my goal is a finished website that is secure, functional, well designed, and capable of being expanded. TF work on my site was counter-productive to all these goals.
For these reasons, I feel my settlement offer is overly generous and lets TF make off with 15 BTC, FAR more than he earned by giving me a worthless/nonfunctional website. Hopefully we can have another programmer review his code and they will agree it is NOT a finished website as TF claimed. There is a point in the contracting process where the client can say, enough is enough, I was well beyond that point with TF and well within my rights to fire him for incompetence.

You keep running your mouth after you agreed to arbitration. The more you talk the more you convince me you are a terrible employer who tries to bully others into accepting less for their work. If you don't want him to fix it, that's on you and he owes you nothing.