Quote from: VanBreuk on July 24, 2016, 10:15:41 AM

Quote from: iotatoken on July 24, 2016, 09:26:45 AM

Need to be emphasized: I never ever tried to pressure Jl777 into anything, the only reason I got into an argument with him was that he was provably misleading people when THEY got pissed at him for opting out of donations.

I don't think you pressed actively into anything, but refusing to bridge one simple channel from IOTA Slack to SuperNET Slack was imo a bad move. If it was a calculated move, it backfired. You have said that SuperNET/jl777 haven't showed interest for IOTA in the last months. Well, they invested a large amount, and when they asked to link a communication channel (which happened with every other project related to SuperNET, even in cases due to investment only) you said no, let me know what do you plan to do for IOTA and then maybe we can have a communication channel. To which james replies that having a slack channel open would facilitate for him catching up and developing plans, and then we have there an awkward endless loop.

When I heard IOTA Foundation (or proto-Foundation) refused to link a slack channel, I honestly thought it was because you guys were afraid of having one channel spammed or some troll coming from the open SN Slack policy. It NEVER occurred to me that you were denying the request as a bargaining mesure. It might not be pressure per se, but I think that was a mistake, and mistakes lead to further mistakes.

Just my 2c, I did donate 10% from my account so I suppose that gives me the right to disagree.

Again this is so insane that I am at a loss of words. James can confirm (if he got any honor whatsoever) that I never ever attempted to pressure him into anything. As soon as he said "no" to the question that EVERYONE manually claiming receives about whether or not he wanted to donate, I didn't even bring it up again. It was randomly yesterday that his OWN community asked him why he didn't donate, they wanted him to donate, so he panicked and shifted the blame over to us, even though he has NEVER EVER even remotely alluded to the potential hypothetical scenario where he would even donate. This is him being a pussy. Instead of owning up to his own mistake of not even consulting his community, he couldn't handle the pressure and immediately put it over to us, so we of course had to respond.

The question re: linking the slacks was not even peripherally related to the foundation at all? Where do you guys make these assumptions? I asked James numerous times: "Do you have any project in SuperNET working on IOTA?" etc. because I wanted to see if we could assist it in any way. He said "no" each time. Then he wanted to bridge the Slacks and I simply told him we'd look into it once they actually had a project, because we are not in the business of randomly linking projects that are not even working on IOTA to IOTA's Slack. Why would we? In what universe does this make sense? We won't setup a channel all for James alone just because he's too lazy to outsource the IOTA section of his failed conglomerate to someone that actually got the time to pay attention. Just because this is the way SuperNET is ran (i.e. random linking of projects) it is not how IOTA is ran. I consider SuperNET to be the epitome of what NOT to do.