Quote from: DarkDays on July 25, 2016, 08:21:26 PM

Quote from: cjmoles on July 25, 2016, 07:45:04 PM

Quote from: DarkDays on July 25, 2016, 07:19:29 PM

Quote from: DarkDays on July 21, 2016, 05:20:35 PM

Quote from: cjmoles on July 21, 2016, 06:20:00 AM

True. Multi-accounting has ruined lucrative careers....Look up the stoxtrader (Nick Grudzian)/Leatherass (Dusty Schmitt) incident. It's very serious. Dusty wasn't even directly involved, yet his career took a huge hit. Having multiple accounts on a single poker site is against a poker sites terms and conditions, regardless if the bad actor admits to collusion, short stacking, rat-holing, softplay, or multiple entry because it is hard to prove intent. It was sufficient enough to ruin Dusty's career that multiple accounts were established, even though he wasn't proven to be the culprit; Nick was the Culprit.

It is the responsibility of the site operator to ban multiple accounts to protect the integrity of the game.

This will lead you to the consensus in the poker community on the practice of multi-accounting: http://www.internettexasholdem.com/poker-forum/general-board/nick-quotstoxtraderquot-grudzian-resigns-over-cheating-61589.html There's also a link to the 2plus2 thread that detailed the incident.

You seem like a reasonable person, so I hope we can discuss this reasonably. It seems like you have issues with other people who feel the same way that I do, but I hope that you don't transfer those feelings onto me, just as I won't transfer how I feel about Betcoin on to you.

Deal?

Also, I've been playing poker professionally for a very long time, so I assure you you don't have to link any reference material to me. It's why I feel so strongly about Betcoin shaping up...I know what it does to the game to have dishonesty and shadiness.

If you know what 'multi-accounting' means, and you're accusing Twitchy of multi accounting when you know that the reason he created all of those accounts was to chat with support and chat in the public chat box, you are being dishonest with your accusation. Because you know that he did not do what you are accusing him of doing. It's like knowing that someone got banned from a store for cursing out the owner and then telling everyone "Well you get banned from stores for stealing, and that guy got banned from the store so he MUST have stolen a bunch of stuff!" That's wrong, and amusingly enough that's literally libel (which is a word that I've seen Betcoin and Betcoin employees throw around on this forum often, always incorrectly). Again, I only know what he's told me and what I've seen with my eyes. If you have proof that he used multiple accounts to play in the same tournament or cash game, that's a whole different story. But nobody has ever accused him of doing so, even Betcoin who has a history of doxxing their users.

Now my question...did Betcoin Jessica/Jessica White encourage/ask you to/pay you to/reward you for leaving Twitchy negative feedback? Would you be willing to show a screenshot of your cashier/recent activity tab on Betcoin to prove that you did not in fact get paid/rewarded for doing so?

It's pretty telling that you are responding to everyone/everything...but not my reasonable question/request.

It's a tendency that I've noticed that everyone whose involved with Betcoin has.

I had responded and posted screenshots directly after your questions; however, trolls immediately took the screenshots I posted and began "photo shopping" and using the information I posted in a manipulative manner....therefore, I deleted my post.

The conduct against the participants of this signature campaign is unethical at best and dishonest on the face of it. At first I considered the fud just misinformed banter, but now I realize that it is more than just rash judgement. I am now under the impression that it is a concerted effort to shut down an effective signature campaign in order to re-direct player traffic. I understand betcoin's stance against the trolls because it is not possible to have rational discussions with irrational agitators.

The problem I have with this response is that you have still refused to answer my question. Do you understand why I'll have to assume that the answer is that you did get asked/paid to trash Twitchy?

Your last paragraph is clearly just grasping at straws. I'm trying to have a rational discussion with you and you are refusing to engage me...after you spoke your piece. That's not fair.

Okay....Look, twitchyseal gave me negative trust first and I responded to his unwarranted accusations in kind. Why would somebody have to pay me to defend myself? So, the answer to your crazy fucking question is NO!....Nobody had to pay me to defend myself; furthermore, I am retired, have plenty of money, and have no need for handouts. I sport Betcoin's signature because I believe in their product and I want to see them succeed. Any stipend I get from wearing the Betcoin signature, I throw back at the tables to support the platform. I'm not even sure if you are a separate entity from the other multi-accounters in this thread so it makes it difficult to assume your motivations.