Quote from: StinkyLover on July 27, 2016, 08:17:03 PM

Quote from: CIYAM on July 27, 2016, 08:12:30 PM

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1504662.msg15717392#msg15717392

The absolute nonsense is those that won't accept the failure and the "guarantee" that was made.

(read those terms very closely - and then read them again please)

I could not care less about ETH or The DAO. I will never defend a thief. If your hate for ETH will make you throw your principles in the bin, then that's up to you.

He is a thief and he is waiting to enjoy the spoils of his crime. Keep defending him. Maybe he will toss you a few.

The story of Joe Ritchie comes to my mind.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Ritchie

Joe figured out that Black-Scholes was incomplete and he 'completed it', he syphoned off over a billion dollars in the 80's through algorithmic computer [TI SR52] trading. Was he a thief? The hacker of DAO took advantage of an incomplete, unthought-out, dreamy hack of a promise. I cheerlead him and applaud his efforts.

These children playing around with smart contracts, currencies or in Ethereum's case on their website, offering the ability to form one's own Central Bank is absurd. Years and years and years integrating dozens of people and dozens of disciplines can possibly make for a smart contract, not a child in a basement who does not understand the consequences or repercussions.

Do you have any idea of the standard operating procedures, security checks, audits, and governance that is employed when a single line of code is changed at a Bank? Nothing could be further from the truth for the DAO project or Ethereum for that matter.

The 'hacker' like Joe Ritchie will hopefully be able to use those spoils to help keep this technology honest and do some wonderful things. Vitalik is the criminal in this circumstance, literally counterfeiting the Blockchain of Ethereum for his own personal beliefs undermining the very core principal that makes Bitcoin the only network with which you could have any reasonable expectation of security and validity. Immutable.

I thank Ethereum for what it did for myself and my family. I purchased it on the very first day of its pre-sale at 2000ETH for 1 Bitcoin, I was in Toronto, I was at Decentral. I bought alot of Bitcoins worth for the equivalent of 25 cents. I sold every last one of the them between $12 and $13 the first time it spiked. I am happy. I am satisfied and as far as I am concerned (I'm only a single opinion) Ethereum is over and it has taught us all lessons, similar to World Coin, Aurora and all the others that have come and gone. As there is no way to know the effects of these instruments unless they are tinkered with in real-time, each one has provided priceless knowledge that will keep making these instruments better and better.

More importantly it will allow legislators to begin to craft the frameworks for their proper oversight.

I for one do not believe this extremely intelligent person is a thief.