Quote from: OgNasty on August 19, 2016, 04:20:24 AM

Quote from: Quickseller on August 19, 2016, 02:36:48 AM

First of all, I absolutely do not condone someone telling someone else that they "should kill himself"

Agreed. Lutpin, despite what I may or may not think of you and your behavior, suggesting you kill yourself, even if being sarcastic, was not appropriate and I am sorry I made the comment. If you killed yourself as a result of my statement, I would certainly lose sleep over it and feel a great deal of guilt. While I tend to think people are a little too sensitive these days, my own beliefs don't excuse me from perceived threats and I'm sorry that you thought I was threatening you, I wasn't. Rather than asking you to provide IP evidence it was me who made the comment, I've taken responsibility for my actions and apologized. I should not have said that you should kill yourself. I did, and I am sorry.

I was deeply shocked when reading the chatlog of that evening after coming home and I still am. I don't see a reason why anyone would post something like this, ever.
However, I also did not expect you to apologize for this, but you did. I stand corrected, and even if this might just be the public pressure, I appreciate the apology.
Maybe this can be a first step.

Quote from: OgNasty on August 19, 2016, 04:20:24 AM

Quote from: bitkilo on August 19, 2016, 03:17:56 AM

And no releasing anyone's DOX please, things don't need to go so far

At no point did I ever threaten to DOX Lutpin. I would also dispute his claim that he tried to do anything to de-escalate the situation as I have gotten no communication from him outside of telling me to remove the signature and join Lauda's signature advertising group. In fact, we haven't had any interaction at all for several days until I saw him create this thread and leave me negative trust today.

After my PMs about your signature, the short private conversation we had over at slack (the one in OP) and the next time we talked about this (aswell in slack, bg4 was there to watch), every time I tried getting this situation solved myself, directly, had the exact opposite effect, things got worse from my perspective after each and every attempt.
To me, this was clearly the sign that I couldn't do it on my own, so I stopped bothering.

As I had immediately contacted Mitchell, who redirected this to theymos not shortly after, I was putting all my hope in theymos getting a hand on the situation.
After all, theymos has more information than we all together, they could bring forward IP evidence and further indications, which all point towards me not having to do anything with the accounts you accuse me of controlling.

When this had however (from my perspective, from what I could see) failed and you kept going after me, PMing my business and private contacts on this forum in a try to remove me from any position I currently hold, I saw no other option than posting this thread. I did feel and I still do feel backed against a corner.

Quote from: OgNasty on August 16, 2016, 07:29:00 PM

I am considering dipping my toe into signature campaign management. I think my reputation and trust level would be a considerable upgrade for you, and I'd like to know if you have any interest in me becoming a new advertiser and campaign manager for you.

Thank you for your time.

Quote from: OgNasty on August 18, 2016, 08:37:48 PM

At what point will people begin being concerned that Lutpin is taking over the signature campaign management of this forum by attacking competitors with alt accounts until they give in and let him manage their campaigns? He's literally deriving an income now from extorting signature campaigns into hiring him or else they face the wrath of his alt accounts torment. He even started an account "game-protect" to try and sell a service where he extorts online gambling houses into paying him or else they get attacked.

I'm surprised it's gone unnoticed so long, but after a quick look at the signature campaign market, it's obvious this user has made a reputation for himself by using alternate accounts to further his agenda.

Lutpin/TwitchySeal/game-protect is literally just attacking any account who advertises signatures from campaigns he isn't running... Just take a look at some of their feedbacks to see just how obvious and ridiculous his scam has gotten: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=154329

I'd rather not have to enter the signature campaign management arena just to put him out of business and try to return some honest behavior to this dark corner of the forum, so I'm open to ideas about how else to combat this problem.

Quote from: game-protect on August 19, 2016, 01:59:45 AM

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There are threads for posting stuff like that on this forum, this is none of them.
Please keep your posts where they belong, your actions have caused me enough trouble as it is.

Quote from: robinH on August 18, 2016, 11:47:24 PM

@ Luptin grow a pair

This comment is highly inappropriate, but you know that yourself.

Quote from: Lauda on August 19, 2016, 12:03:54 AM

Quote from: cpfreeplz on August 18, 2016, 11:54:06 PM

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It seems like you've missed the point of this thread.

Seconded. Please go and read what this thread is about before making comments that are on the edge of being off-topic.

Quote from: Quickseller on August 19, 2016, 02:36:48 AM

The fact that Lutpin was told something very inappropriate does not absolve him from the kind of business practices he is alleged to have engaged in doing. I have long been suspicious of Lutpin, have looked into him, but have never come across an accusation of this kind of business activity -- this is not to say that these allegations are untrue, or unfounded.

I don't know where they come from, but I'm well aware of your suspicions towards me. I had them in mind when consulting you about this situation earlier.
I fear neither you, nor anyone else, "looking into me", as there is nothing to find, regardless how deep you might be digging. Everyone, feel free to search yourself.
Honesty and transparency have always been key points to me when acting on this forum (that is the truth, you might believe it or not, that's up to you to decide).

Quote from: bitkilo on August 19, 2016, 03:17:56 AM

Quote from: Lutpin on August 18, 2016, 09:53:56 PM

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It has to stop, right now and right here.

Not taking anyone's side in this but i have been seeing the situation regarding the 2 members in question unfolding for weeks now and can say it is only getting worse for both parties, let's put a stop to any harassment or accusations now.

There's nothing I want more right now, OgNasty, what do I have to do to put an end to this once and for all?
I want to get this situation over with, tell me how I can achieve this.