Quote from: Sir Alpha_goy on August 21, 2016, 03:35:32 PM

Clown you have succeeded at making me laugh.
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One thing that I will have to take issue with is your thoughts on ZERO transaction fees.

Have you ever tried to do a peer to peer transaction without a fee?

FOREVER.
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Forever is defined as: Never ending. Yes I HAVE made Bitcoin QT transactions, peer to peer, QT to QT, with zero fee. Even made transactions to myself from wallet to wallet. It takes time but is a zero fee. It is not forever. Do you understand the difference between 1 hour and infinity?

Quote from: Senor.Bla on August 21, 2016, 07:03:32 AM

well, you have made some interesting points and maybe this would even work. but i am not going to find out. once for lack of bitcoins in this quantity, but also as i see the potential to fuck up at one point, so i rather do not take the risk. if you think i am stupid because of that, then this is fine with me. but i know i would live with the constant fear of making a mistake and i guess i would need to move a lot (or is there a different system for a house/flat?).
there are clever ways to minimize the taxes you pay, but your solution is one step to far for me. maybe if i would have bitcoins by the thousands i would be more appealing to me.

I did not suggest anything illegal. If you are too scared to get an LLC I will not change your mind. It is legal, but it isn't for everyone.
Also a car does not cost 1000s of bitcoins. 1000 BTC would be 580,000 so I hope you are being more reasonable than that.

Quote from: geetee on August 21, 2016, 12:53:51 PM

....every wallet is registered, like a social security#.....
perhaps you want to buy a car from a friend. you both agree 5000. taxes due.

today, you can give him 5000 cash and register paperwork for sale of 100. taxes on 100.
future, "they" (governments/banks/irs, etc) will detect transfer of 5000. all taxes due.

what about work under the table or "off the books", for cash? today its possible. future... nevermore. with digital currency, blockchains everywhere, on everything and a mandatory wallet thats registered to you? Doubtful.

remember, if you've ever bought bitcoin using a marketplace (coinbase, bitstamp, bitfinex, etc, etc) they know who you are and what youre holding. all the feds have to do is ask and those companies are usually all too happy to comply.

"well then, i'll move the coins from my Bitstamp wallet to a new wallet and they'll never know"

no. they have blockchain analysis, clustering analysis for this. and companies like coinbase in the US are already required to us it us it to comply with KYC/AML (know your customer / antimoney laundering) banking laws.

anyway, its a bit troubling when you think about it. ironic too. people (or a person) started this whole thing, and it could be our entire undoing.

Every wallet cannot be registered. People will make their own. Would you like me to tell you how to make your own, anonymous, by yourself, and unregistered? lol
Car transfer taxes are NOT based on the reported value. They are based on the blue book value MINUS any and all cost of UNVERIFIED claims of needed repair to bring it up to bluebook condition. Ever buy a car before? You are about 20 years out of date.
So please don't attempt to talk about the future.

You also know nothing about BTC tumblers, how to open an anonymous account, or transfer BTC around. Analyze all you want, there is NO secret mathematical algorithm to identify the difference between one BTC account OWNER or another, or the difference between spent coin and transferred coin.

Also a Florida court recently ruled that bitcoin is NOT money. So no banking law applies. Even if the Gov wanted to, they could never enforce laws over BTC. Ask New York how well the ban on BTC transactions is going. (A license is required to deal with bitcoin in new york. In the BTC community, no fucks were given. )