Quote from: Luke-Jr on March 09, 2013, 09:06:45 PM

Quote from: loshia on March 09, 2013, 07:36:34 PM

Quote from: Luke-Jr on March 09, 2013, 07:28:51 PM

Quote from: loshia on March 09, 2013, 06:11:09 PM

Quote from: Phinnaeus Gage on March 09, 2013, 06:08:46 PM

What's ironic is that a similar list--ten times longer--applied to Avalon, yet they delivered.

There were ZERO doubts that avalon will deliver. The question was about BFL and BASIC one is gone already second question still remains Grin

There have never been any legitimate doubts that BFL will deliver.
A bunch of trolls shouting "scam" does not make it so.

Luke,

I respect you and your work. The only way to stop us trolling is to see a proof that something happaning in BFL camp and they to start to deliver. I will sent my apologies to BFL and who feels affected buy me. No irony here if that matters at all. Until then we will troll. I do not mean to offend you not only because you helped me once but because of your work and skills
Please excuse me ...

Just face the facts - pictures with fans, chips heat sinks are just pictures and nothing more this is the way most of us see things. Kano went there and show us air plains and buildings. Probably the initial idea was to get a prototype in order to develop cgminer. Even though he stayed longer than expected nothing came out of it. What does it mean? Shit happen again 100%. How big it is - we will never know. Yeah BFL has air plain PCb machine probably and so? just a few pictures came out of it for now. It just not making sense for me. I have sated many times that BFL is not a scam it is just a proxy that is all. It might become a sacam eventually when upstream fails. Let us hope that this will never happen not because of BFL but because of the dudes here who put their money and hopes in the company

Ok, BFL is late - later than ever before. But there is no evidence they're a scam or won't deliver.
From what I've seen of Josh's updates (and I haven't even seen all of them, I'm sure), we're getting all the information they have available (short of releasing trade secrets, which would be a ridiculous expectation).
Also realize that the lesson BFL is being taught by all the trolling is that trolls will make trouble if they do release information too.

Common dude, BFL make this game of preorders since their FPGA era - 2011. As far as i know they didnt deliver any FPGA, even the existence of that prototype is not clear.