Quote from: freequant on August 27, 2016, 06:18:02 AM

Quote from: LegendaryGamer on August 27, 2016, 04:53:49 AM

what are you on about dude? Every MMO I can think of has some form of gambling. Even games like Neopets which young kids play have gambling in them. Does you think Neopets operates with a gambling license when their primary audience is probably 8-14 year olds? What's the big difference here compared to every other MMO or website that offers this sort of stuff because I'm missing something lol

I haven't said no MMO is doing any sort of gambling. Whether a game has in-game gambling or not is not the point. The point is whether they use real-money or not. The vast majority are not real money MMOs and don't explicitely allow players to withdraw their gambling gains and convert them to cash. There are always players who trade ingame money for real money on the black market but since its explicitely disallowed in terms and conditions, this isn't under the responsibility of the game company unless it can be proven that they knew about it and didn't do anything to prevent it. Real money MMOs hat involve gambling are another problem entirely, and companies that develop them do consult lawyers and do the necessary things to make sure they remain on the right side of regulation. And if they don't they are just exposing themselves to future liability. Some businesses are careless and it costs them dearly in the end: see what happened to intrade. Most are doing the right thing and getting legal advice and setting up things to be legal.

I don't know Neopet but if it targets 8~14 I'd be surprised if they allow players to convert their winnings to real money, and if they do they must have run that through a lawyer and/or setup shop in a jurisdiction where unlicensed gambling is legal.

Generally, don't just assume things are trivial because the legal work is not visible from your consumer perspective. I too see many shops selling alcohol, but it doesn't mean that they haven't done their job and applied for a license to sell alcohol.

Jewels isn't directly letting their players convert their earnings to real money either. Jewels isn't "real money"... on 3rd party websites you can trade Jewels for BTC and then BTC for USD just like how on Neopets you can go to 3rd party sites and set up blackmarket trades for NP (Neopets virtual currency) to USD. The reason they discourage is because of course off site trading leads to scamming and banning not to mention usually farmed gold or NP in my example usually comes from botting and cheating so then you get collateral banned. Obviously these big names consult lawyers they're huge multimillion dollar companies what would you expect them to yolo Huh

lol! Even if Jewels themselves didn't endorse it and simply "discouraged it" nothing is to prevent them from setting up an offshore registration / 2nd company and then essentially regulating their own "black market". Unless this game becomes one of the next biggest MMO's out there I doubt they will face legal problems and if they do start to get to that point I'm sure they will poor money into legal council... I mean wouldnt you? It's common sense lol

shit dude I'll do u a favor and hit up /r/legaladvice tomorrow and I'm pretty sure people will say its grey much like everything in the crypto world