Quote from: kooke on September 02, 2016, 01:00:32 PM

Two points:

a)

Quote from: hypersire on September 02, 2016, 04:04:28 AM

Quote from: abdylas on September 02, 2016, 03:51:31 AM

Quote from: BoldNinja on September 01, 2016, 02:26:59 PM

I don't see where is the problem. Simple

You received 60 BTC which is a lot in stage 1. That should get you a head-start and to get trust from investors :

1. Pay the bounties from stage 1 you will be left with more than 50 BTC
2. Release the wallet and distribute the coins if you think you got much less than you wanted well that's a risk every developer has to accommodate sometimes less is more in crypto ( a lot of now sucessful projects even started as a joke and are now in top 50 coins without any starting funds) apart from that I'm OK if you take that 9% that was reserved for PoW as development fund and that should give you motivation for your project to be properly developed.

Now for the escrow :

1. You get 20% of escrow when you distribute coins and post working basic wallet along with source (that's additional 15-18 BTC I don't know how much was raised in stage 2 )
2. You get 20% when you list it on Bittrex and not some shitty exchange (3 BTC listing fee will get you additional 15 BTC for development)

You are still left with more than 80 BTC (stage1+stage2) you can start developing the wallet you promised.

3. You get 20% when you release wallet you promised (beta one)
4. You get 40% when it's functional (I'm not saying smart contracts, debit cards, ... ) but that it is stable

this works for me, looks like a win-win

I also agree with BoldNinja's proposal, including the part about keeping the 9% for development since the ICO didn't raise as much as was hoped for.

I've been grudgingly watching this thread since the beginning - the FUD has been absolutely sickening.

I've been on these forums since 2011 and when I think of those long gone, glorious early crypto days when even Anonymous posted here and the awesome vibe and conversations that were had I just feel sad about what a sewer Bitcointalk has become.

There are more than 15 users than agree with this proposal, even, wasserman agree too. So we only need that SebastianJu accepted now. As hypersire said above there is a plan but sj for some reasons dont accept it. (if you read all the conversations, you will see that wasserman offer to sj a lot of roadmap/plan, but sj rejects all.

b)

Quote from: vasdav on September 02, 2016, 03:55:53 AM

Quote from: SebastianJu on September 01, 2016, 08:27:30 PM

Guys, I see alot of posts of accounts that want me to release the coins to wasserman99. Unfortunately the only persons I can trust to be real persons are investors that showed some sort of proof of their investment and wasserman99 as the dev. It seems there are other threads about OPAIR where the vibrations are completely the opposite and they can't post here. In any case this is nothing I could base a decision on and override other investors wishes based on accounts that are unverified investors.

So if you invested then please contact me with your wish to FORWARD the coins to wasserman99. Personally I would like to get an explaination why the coins from ICO phase 1 are only enough to pay for having a wallet in hands and running a sig campaign. There are much smaller ICO's that manage to do that without receiving any investment.

So far wasserman99 could not explain the usage of that kind of a lot of money so if I had contact with an experienced altcoin user on this forum before, who invested into this ICO now and I trust him then let me know and please let me know why these numbers match up.

What is your plan?? A small number of investors will contact you. What will happen to the others? You are legendary escrow?? Hah! Don't make me laugh! You had to discuss everything in advance

I agree with this, what are you going to do with all investors not contact you to ask for refund or send to wasserman. Because surely they are the majority. Are you going to the keep you? Send to the project? or what?

Please, stop this and accept the community plan, which is accepted by wasserman too.

Good health to Opair!

Community?? Only a handful. how to verify they even invested. Best is send ur opinion to SebastinJu and prove your investment. This way SebastinJu may work according to the community wishes.