Quote from: Youresioure on September 02, 2016, 11:14:26 AM

Free electricity is the best but if you pay any amount for electricity, you will have to calculate with it. Since you are in waiting already, in your place I would wait the R4 hardware. You don't have to buy the software as there are very good open-source software. You still should do proper optimization and maybe it's worth the look up the parameters in related guides depends on what software you will use.

Do not believe everything you read.
R4 is already on sale a week.

https://shop.bitmain.com/productDetail.htm?pid=00020160829050856183dK8A4TFO0645

Even More overpriced than the S9 .
Today you can only use with them one software BMminer Version 1.0.0

You are right.

Quote from: CardShark659 on August 29, 2016, 12:47:32 PM

..... a few people say there is no money in mining ....

1 x S9 today earns five euros profit.
5 euro =50 empty cola cans or bottles in my country. But it does not require investment in 2000 USD
Therefore BTC mining is a hobby. A hobby does not have to be profitable