Quote from: MPOE-PR on March 12, 2013, 08:19:42 PM

Let me take the opportunity to clarify some points of apparent confusion:

Quote from: mobodick on March 12, 2013, 08:00:09 PM

And did you ever pay these independant devs for fixing shit for you for free?

This question is malformed. If you are asking me whether they owe me, the answer is yes.

HAHA.
If they owe you then why cant you settle this on a personal matter?
Why the neeed for public support, why the call to arms?

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Quote from: mobodick on March 12, 2013, 08:00:09 PM

Are they your wage slaves so you can demand that they do work for you or anyone else?

Yes, they are. This is what being a developer means in this context: that you are a servant. A slave, if you prefer that terminology. One who obeys. An inferior. A steward. Nobody, politically speaking. I'm running out of alternative ways to put this, but I would hope you get the idea.

Where do you get that idea from? Where is the contract that the bitcoin devs need to take this position in the way you describe so overly?
And what would enforce this status?

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If someone is interested in becoming politically relevant, being part of the dev team is not only a waste of his time, it's a waste of everyone's time. That a number of the more socially inept kids are doing this (Amir Scarface Taaki, who has meanwhile thankfully been ejected, Weirdo Luke, Gregory Pointless Maxwell and on and on) doesn't make it workable. It just doesn't work.

This is inherent to such an open project like bitcoin.
People, including programmers, will have political opinions.
Anyone can contribute to the source and it shows deep misunderstanding of open source development when someone bluntly demands something of the development process without actually actively participating in it.

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If someone is interested in becoming rich, being part of the dev team is not only a waste of his time, but a waste of everyone's time. It's just not how it works. Being part of the dev team is being part of the slaves, the servants, the stewards, the however you'd call them. This abject social position does not entitle them to immunity for their fuck-ups in any case. You may dislike that, and that's fine, but your likes and dislikes have no power to change this world.

I call them the creatives, the makers.
You're a shitty user and you have no actual power over the ones you call slaves.
You are nothing without them and you know it.
Show some respect.

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Quote from: mobodick on March 12, 2013, 08:00:09 PM

Have you ever discussed your issues with the development team in a calm and adult manner?

You are not entitled to place limitations on the manner of my discourse. The correct question to ask here is, MP recently published an article about the problems in Bitcoin. Have the developers read it and noted this fact?

No, but i can take note of it and form an opinion.
You seem to communicate rather single sidedly, preferably by pamfletting. On an open platform like internet that actually deters from a direct discussion or participation.

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Quote from: mobodick on March 12, 2013, 08:00:09 PM

Do you even have the capacity to understand what you ask of them? (your tone tells me you're oblivious
How much further does your understanding of the problem go besides: "It's fucked up! fixitfixitfixitfixit!!@@!@!!!!" ?)
And how would you consider devs being independend if you expect them to give in to your tantrums?

I would guess you probably haven't actually understood what's being discussed here at all. As a rule of thumb that may serve you well in the future: whenever things happen that don't make sense to you, it's likely because you've not understood what's actually happening. It's rarely because the people involved are wrong. This is because you are stupid.

As to the matter of "testing":

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sipa jgarzik: have we seen a block which affected 5000 transaction index entries?
jgarzik sipa: I don't think so

Fuck you.

This is not testing. Stop releasing new clients, you don't have the license to do it, idiots.

I understand perfectly what is being discussed. And i know it hurts when someone holds up a mirror so i don't mind the swearing.
And as usual you neatly cycle around the difficult part.

How do you expect devs to be independent if you demand stuff from them?
Slaves are not independent, they are slaves.