Quote from: dumbfbrankings on September 21, 2016, 08:59:58 AM

Quote from: illyiller on September 21, 2016, 08:53:28 AM

... people like me will make sure you won't have a clean hard fork.

Gasp! Will you dump your pre-fork sig spam earnings on the on-chain scaling side of teh fork?! Pls, no!

Interesting. Your last few one-line posts seem a lot more spammy than anything I've written. You haven't contributed a thing to this thread. And to be clear: Segwit contributes to on-chain scaling. For instance, it fixes perverse UTXO incentives which cause longterm UTXO bloat. It also increases capacity in a backward compatible way, to mitigate the externalities of increased throughput on nodes. This is what scaling is about: optimizing the protocol to mitigate the effects of throughput, maintaining the system's robustness. You are just talking about increasing throughput with zero scaling mechanisms. That's not scaling at all.

More than that, Segwit enables significant on-chain scaling mechanisms like aggregate signatures, which can cut down signature size by 30-40%. That's on-chain capacity gained. There's lots of little things I've read are in the works to improve verification and syncing times and mitigate bandwidth spikes and network latencies---all extremely important because scalability entails retaining node and miner decentralization in the context of increased growth. Lightning transactions (aside from the 2-of-2 multisig transactions that open/close channels) are indeed off-chain---what's the problem? Every transaction is trustless and can be broadcast to the blockchain.